A Modest Proposal!

[Anselm33]

In view of the heated discussion on AGW (anthropic --manmade–global warming) in another thread, I’d like to put forth a modest proposal. It doesn’t have much science to back it up, but that’s not a fault for Greenies. CH4 (methane) is about 23 times more effective as a GHG (Green House Gas) than CO2 because of the greater number of low-frequency bending vibrations that can emit absorbed energy in the low IR (Infra-Red, heat) region of the spectrum. Moreover, CH4 is not recycled as a nutrient for vegetation, unlike CO2. The only scientific proof I have to offer that atmospheric CH4 can be connected with a hot earth is that in the distant past (I think) there was lots of CH4 in the earth’s atmosphere and the temperatures were much hotter.

Now CH4 is emitted in human and animal flatus and eructations (burps); cattle are a big offender. The following foodstuffs–broccoli, onions, peppers, etc–are known to cause flatus in humans, so I propose a “cap the gut gas” tax on such vegetables and a tax on cattle (as recently proposed in New Zealand) . Possibly research projects could figure out technology to capture the CH4 from gut gas, which could then be a new energy source.

As I said, the science for this isn’t strong, but we can carry out the program as a moral exercise, sort of an economic hair shirt.
I’d be interested in critical responses.

 

[Alexander_Smith]

Global warming is a convenient hoax intended to fool the general population into believing the earth is in peril for the purpose of money making and control.

Many people including guys like Michael Crighton have written about how faulty the evidence behind global warming is, and there are good reasons to believe the whole thing is at least partially engineered. I’ve had so many people tell me about global warming as if it was an established fact, yet they cannot recite any evidence to back it up.

It’s kind of like evolution, but younger.

As for your post, while it makes sense to some degree, I think if the earth is so fragile that it cannot handle people and animals passing gas without burning up, it has serious problems.

 

[St_Francis]

In view of the heated discussion on AGW (anthropic --manmade–global warming) in another thread, I’d like to put forth a modest proposal. It doesn’t have much science to back it up, but that’s not a fault for Greenies. CH4 (methane) is about 23 times more effective as a GHG (Green House Gas) than CO2 because of the greater number of low-frequency bending vibrations that can emit absorbed energy in the low IR (Infra-Red, heat) region of the spectrum. Moreover, CH4 is not recycled as a nutrient for vegetation, unlike CO2. The only scientific proof I have to offer that atmospheric CH4 can be connected with a hot earth is that in the distant past (I think) there was lots of CH4 in the earth’s atmosphere and the temperatures were much hotter.

Now CH4 is emitted in human and animal flatus and eructations (burps); cattle are a big offender. The following foodstuffs–broccoli, onions, peppers, etc–are known to cause flatus in humans, so I propose a “cap the gut gas” tax on such vegetables and a tax on cattle (as recently proposed in New Zealand) . Possibly research projects could figure out technology to capture the CH4 from gut gas, which could then be a new energy source.

As I said, the science for this isn’t strong, but we can carry out the program as a moral exercise, sort of an economic hair shirt.
I’d be interested in critical responses.

So, we should totally mess up part of our economic food chain on the dubious claim that maybe a hot period of the earth coincided with hig levels of CH4?

It’s all well and good for one to propose a mortification for oneself, but it’s another thing to propose it for other people.

And this pretty much encapsulates the entire AGW conversation for me.

 

[kimmielittle]

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[Katrina5]

Global warming is a convenient hoax intended to fool the general population into believing the earth is in peril for the purpose of money making and control.

Many people including guys like Michael Crighton have written about how faulty the evidence behind global warming is, and there are good reasons to believe the whole thing is at least partially engineered. I’ve had so many people tell me about global warming as if it was an established fact, yet they cannot recite any evidence to back it up.

It’s kind of like evolution, but younger.

As for your post, while it makes sense to some degree, I think if the earth is so fragile that it cannot handle people and animals passing gas without burning up, it has serious problems.

Isn’t Michael Crichton dead? Anything he wrote about this subject would be at least a year out of date.

 

[Anselm33]

So, we should totally mess up part of our economic food chain on the dubious claim that maybe a hot period of the earth coincided with hig levels of CH4?

It’s all well and good for one to propose a mortification for oneself, but it’s another thing to propose it for other people.

And this pretty much encapsulates the entire AGW conversation for m

I advise those who are criticizing this proposal to look at Jonathan Swift’s original “Modest Proposal”–I thought more people would get the reference…sigh…

 

[Katrina5]

I advise those who are criticizing this proposal to look at Jonathan Swift’s original “Modest Proposal”–I thought more people would get the reference…sigh…

Um, yes. Wasn’t his “proposal” eating children?

I got the reference.
You have to understand there are some deep, serious folks on CAF.
People who wouldn’t get a joke if it hit them in the face.
It is so much fun.

PS, sometimes we don’t read all the posts and do all the scrolling, so your message gets lost in the “mire.”

 

[Anselm33]

You will need one of my cool cow poot catcher tanks

These can be bought for hmmmmmmm…$99.99 …From the newly formed Company Of Anselm33-kimmie LLC

rim shot!!! 3 points from the center line!

 

[HeavenlyRoses]

Yes, I immediately got the reference - it’s why I clicked on your post! Jonathan Swift, a classic.

 

[kimmielittle]

rim shot!!! 3 points from the center line!

Do you think we oughta sell COWbun Credits?

 

[markbrumbaugh]

Kimmie…do you have one of them gas catchers that will fit my Beagle. Holy smokes she can pass methane.

 

[kamaan]

Do you think we oughta sell COWbun Credits?

:doh2:

 

[kimmielittle]

Kimmie…do you have one of them gas catchers that will fit my Beagle. Holy smokes she can pass methane.

Might we suggest, using the big one, you don’t have to dump it as often

 

[kimmielittle]

:doh2:

O’kay if you forgive the pun, we will let you be a partner

 

[kamaan]

O’kay if you forgive the pun, we will let you be a partner

Ooo, how exciting! And I quite enjoyed the pun, so no worries!

 

[kimmielittle]

Ooo, how exciting! And I quite enjoyed the pun, so no worries!

All your COWbun Footprints have just been offset. Preset this notice the next time you need a cow product

 

[kamaan]

All your COWbun Footprints have just been offset. Preset this notice the next time you need a cow product

I might just be really tired… but every time I read the word “COWbun” I start giggling uncontrollably :whacky:

 

[kimmielittle]

I might just be really tired… but every time I read the word “COWbun” I start giggling uncontrollably :whacky:

:clapping::clapping:

 

[kamaan]

:clapping::clapping:

:thankyou:

(I’m getting to use all sorts of smileys here!)

 

[St_Francis]

I advise those who are criticizing this proposal to look at Jonathan Swift’s original “Modest Proposal”–I thought more people would get the reference…sigh…

I caught the reference, but yours sounded so much like what AGW believers propose that I thought you were serious.