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Sister_Amy
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I don’t know anything about Joseph Smith, as I’ve said before.
But here’s my premise : if the Qur’an is supposed to be proof of its own authenticity, then there ought to be something special, something miraculous about it. And I am absolutely convinced that there is.
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ralphinal
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In a nutshell, Joseph Smith was visited by an angel, told that God wanted to restore the church that had gone apostate, and was given the lost books of the Bible including the Book of Mormon. He then created the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.I don’t know anything about Joseph Smith, as I’ve said before.
But here’s my premise : if the Qur’an is supposed to be proof of its own authenticity, then there ought to be something special, something miraculous about it. And I am absolutely convinced that there is.
I cannot read Arabic. I also have no need or desire to learn it. I can read the Qur’an in English, and depending on who you ask that is good. I see nothing so spectacular in it to make me doubt my own faith in Christ. So to each his own.
THere are Arabic reading posters on here who hold the same position. Again, to each his own
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Angelos
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Circular reasoning. I am sick of this.I don’t know anything about Joseph Smith, as I’ve said before.
But here’s my premise : if the Qur’an is supposed to be proof of its own authenticity, then there ought to be something special, something miraculous about it. And I am absolutely convinced that there is.
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Angelos
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Thanks my dear friend, I hope you feel the grace of God in your life. Peace to youBrother angelos,marvellous reply:thumbsup:
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ralphinal
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Is this not where we usually wind up?Circular reasoning. I am sick of this.
How can one overcome this issue?
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morning_star777
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you are welcome my brotherThanks my dear friend, I hope you feel the grace of God in your life. Peace to you
.yes i am feeling God’sGrace in my life but slowly.i will be happy if jesus accept me as his real servant.but i know its very tough.please pray for me.and peace to you also
.jesus bless you
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Lapell
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I thought you used to believe the Gospel? Don’t you any more?The same standard DOES apply. Let’s apply the same standard. If a person did something in privacy, how is a historian going to know about it centuries later, if the person who did it never tells, and nobody saw it, or if anyone did see it they didn’t report it? Nobody’s going to know.
When it comes to the crucifixion, according to you, you have Jesus’s word for it! And the people around him!
So yes, let’s please apply the same standard.
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Charlotte2008
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Yes, there is one miracle concerning the quran and that is that so many people have been taken in by it. Not surprising really that there is a skyrocketing rate of apostates!I don’t know anything about Joseph Smith, as I’ve said before.
But here’s my premise : if the Qur’an is supposed to be proof of its own authenticity, then there ought to be something special, something miraculous about it. And I am absolutely convinced that there is.
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swariffin
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As long as there is no scene of him reading the gospel of Thomas, gospel of Barnabas, etc… and wrote them as the verses of the Quran.
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swariffin
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Hello there my dear brother. Hope that you are always be in the grace of God.Thanks my dear friend, I hope you feel the grace of God in your life. Peace to you
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Eucharisted
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Type of movie: Anime
Narration: Talking ants narrate Mohammed’s life
Climax: Ant fight, Matrix-style.
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josie_L
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Then, think of the writers in the New Testament as historians as well as apostles and disciples of Jesus, the only begotten Son of God. In fact, the writers of the NT were concerned with preserving the Truth of Jesus’s ministry and life for all posterity. They state that they are witnesses to these events. Those who witnessed the resurrection, by the way, were in the thousands, do you not think this is credible enough. I’m not sure how many people you know who resurrected, but it sure would be an unforgettable moment if it did happen.The same standard DOES apply. Let’s apply the same standard. If a person did something in privacy, how is a historian going to know about it centuries later, if the person who did it never tells, and nobody saw it, or if anyone did see it they didn’t report it? Nobody’s going to know.
When it comes to the crucifixion, according to you, you have Jesus’s word for it! And the people around him!
So yes, let’s please apply the same standard.
Remember, Jesus himself resurrected others from the dead, a foreshadowing of what was to come.
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sedonaman
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It would include, above all, the aggressive wars Muslims committed against Christians in the 463 years leading up to the Crusades. The second thing I would include is what jihad really means.
On second thought, I think it would depict Mohammed lashed to, and trying to harpoon, the Great White Whale of Christianity.
On second thought, I think it would depict Mohammed lashed to, and trying to harpoon, the Great White Whale of Christianity.
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tyciol
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I would like to see a ‘Passion of the Prophet’ centring around Muhammad’s relationships with his wives, namely his first two, whom I think he adored the most. In particular they are very interesting because he married an older woman, and then his second wife Aisha was very young. How he marries many widows to protect them is also interesting.
Enlightening upon how he places a limit on wives (4 wasn’t it?) while having more than that many previous to making the rule which he hung on to, is also interesting.
Obviously the Muslims consider other things in his life very important too, such as improving the treatment of slaves (even if he didn’t outlaw it outright), changing how people relate to each other, promoting worship of Allah, the battles, etc. The thing is, those can be made into other movies. I would just like to see a focus on the softer aspect of Muhammad, surrounding his marriages and stuff.
Featuring how he speaks about Jesus would also be interesting, because from what I know, Jesus does come up in Islam, seen as a prophet previous to Muhammad or something (though I don’t think they agree with the claim of divine descendency as Christians do).
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josie_L
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Throught prayer and the grace of God. Don’t reason with her anymore. By the way, do you know what she believed before she became Muslim.
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planten
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**morning_star has praised angelos for the reply. But angelos did not remember that man god (Jesus) arrived thousands of years late in the world. Did God forget to send him quickly. I cannot believe that God would forget to send his son to the world after thousands of years of mankind. Why did God do that? Sent Jesus very late, say 1400 years after Moses and two thousand years after abraham… Why was that? Was that a mistake of your God, the Father God.Brother angelos,marvellous reply:thumbsup:
It all goes to show that Catholics have no understanding of any religion and no patience and no justice / consideration for the feelings of others.
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planten
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sis Amy, the question of Ralph was well worded, in a nice way and it was all very much valid. But your reply is all the more beautiful, short and smart, honest reply. Thank you very much.I don’t know anything about Joseph Smith, as I’ve said before.
But here’s my premise : if the Qur’an is supposed to be proof of its own authenticity, then there ought to be something special, something miraculous about it. And I am absolutely convinced that there is.
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planten
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**Also mention that it is only Muhammad who gave recognition to Jesus. No other religion in the world has done that. Even though Muhammad did not admit Jesus as God yet he proclaime dJesus as a man of God. that should be enough for the christians to some extent. But they seem not to be satisfied with that and they feel that Muhammad was the enemy of Jesus.
Not so. Muhammad was one of the same kind as Jesus. Please just inform the muslims here about any one religion who admitted Jesus as a Man of God. Just tell us about it. Did any religion in the world accept Jesus as a good one? Name that religion please**.
Not so. Muhammad was one of the same kind as Jesus. Please just inform the muslims here about any one religion who admitted Jesus as a Man of God. Just tell us about it. Did any religion in the world accept Jesus as a good one? Name that religion please**.
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Agabriel
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So what if no other religions mentioned Jesus? I don’t understand the point. Just because a bloodthirsty warlord, Muhammad, mentioned Him that makes Muhammad special? He only mentioned Him because he wanted to convert Christians. He wanted to make people think that Islam was something sent after Christianity. Since it wasn’t the whole point you are trying to make is moot.
Muhammad was the complete opposite of Jesus. Muhammad was a murdering thug who couldn’t stop lusting after women and greedy after other’s valuables, while Jesus taught love and acceptance, and rejected earthly riches.
You are making a stretch to try to compare Jesus to Muhammad.
Muhammad couldn’t even follow his own commands about sin. Muhammad committed shirk which is one of the worst sins and committed other sins that he told others not to do, but he did.
video on al_Tirmidhi hadiths pointing out Muhammed committing shirk
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