A movie about Muhammad

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josie_L said:
When you specify books like the Da VInci Code as a means to derive truth about Jesus, you make a mockery of your intelligence. The Da Vinci Code is a work of FICTION. In fact, if you look for a copy in a bookstore it will be found under Popular Fiction, because Planten that is what it is. So to use this as a reliable source of knowledge on the life of Jesus is absolute poppycock.

Can I deny the allegations of the Da VInci Code about Jesus, the Son of God, YES I CAN. 😃

And if you consider Muhammad to be the best that mankind has to offer, we has the human race are: $%#^&*
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**josie, my that post was in reply to charlotte who had said something about our prophet Muhammad. You may go back and read all that. It had nothing to do with you. Please note that my post was in reply to some abusive post by charlotte.

If charlottes feels that she had something to support her then I have also the Da Vinci Code to support me. I do not consider the book Da Vinci Code (and the film) as anything for fiction. I believe it to be true. I need to believe like that and I will not forego taht belief about the marriage of Jesus with Mary Magd as long as some Catholic persons here on the forum are accusing my prophet with crimes.

Otherwise Muhammad taught us to love jesus and Moses and Mary and the disciples. There is not a bad word to be found in our books about Jesus or Moses or Mary. If Muhamamd can be so good and sensible (in praise of those men/women of God) then how can he himslef be bad? Not possible.**
 
planten said:
** charlotte, my discussion is with sedonaman. You can keep out of it with your abuse. In the meantime, there are books and film about your Jesu. Try to read the book about Da Vinci Code where the secret Marriage of your Jesu is described with Mary magd and a child was also born out of secret wedlock.

You know that 30 years of the life of your Jesu is hidden. I suggest that you use the proper name of our prophet which is Muhammad otherwise think of your Jesu.
Are you aware of those Da Vinci Code allegations. You cannot deny them.

If you like to deny them then i will also deny whatever abusive words you are saying about the best of all mankind i.e. Muhammad. You want your man son of a man to be called jesu. If not then please write the proper name of our prophet in future. We have no respect for your Jesu.**
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Stop trying to divert the conversation. I have read the Da Vinci Code - a lot have actually but guess what!!! Yep no violent protests, the writer is still alive and not in hiding for the rest of his life. It is FICTION even the author says so and would never shake the faith of a true Christian. Telling the truth about mohammed is not abuse. Inshallah one day you shake off your fear and question your religion. Watch the video in my footer about mohammed - it speaks volumes about the biggest con man in the history of the world. Thanks for the laugh though “best of all mankind i.e. mohammed” lol lol lol
 
Charlotte2008 said:
Stop trying to divert the conversation. I have read the Da Vinci Code - a lot have actually but guess what!!! Yep no violent protests, the writer is still alive and not in hiding for the rest of his life. It is FICTION even the author says so and would never shake the faith of a true Christian. Telling the truth about mohammed is not abuse. Inshallah one day you shake off your fear and question your religion. Watch the video in my footer about mohammed - it speaks volumes about the biggest con man in the history of the world. Thanks for the laugh though “best of all mankind i.e. mohammed” lol lol lol
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** charlotte, you are adamant. I believe in Da Vinci Code 100 % because it is the work of a very great genious Leonardo Da Vinci. You may not believe him but I do. So the marriage of Jesus with Mary Magd is a truth and there is no harm in telling the truth. (as you said it)

i will not leave you there. I will ask you about the previous marriage of Jesus at the age of 16 and when you have considered that truth then I will inform you of more marriage and children at a later age two. There are people in the world who claim to hail from Jesus.

So could you please drop such subjects. It will only hurt your Catholic friends all the more. Reply please, what is your response to my request**.
 
planten said:
** charlotte, you are adamant. I believe in Da Vinci Code 100 % because it is the work of a very great genious Leonardo Da Vinci. You may not believe him but I do. So the marriage of Jesus with Mary Magd is a truth and there is no harm in telling the truth. (as you said it)

i will not leave you there. I will ask you about the previous marriage of Jesus at the age of 16 and when you have considered that truth then I will inform you of more marriage and children at a later age two. There are people in the world who claim to hail from Jesus.

So could you please drop such subjects. It will only hurt your Catholic friends all the more. Reply please, what is your response to my request**.
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**THE BIBLE WHICH IS THE GOD OF WORD **does not say he was married. There are always people who claim to be something they are not. Look at Mohammed - he claimed to be a prophet - doesn’t mean he was. Jesus was not married. He was also sinless - the best of mankind (unlike mohammed). He was the Son of of God and the only way to salvation. He came to save us from our sins and died on the Cross. He came from that reason not to procreate. Read a Bible for yourself instead of beleiving what your imams and scholars say. They won’t be there on Judgment Day - only you will.
 
planten said:
**josie, my that post was in reply to charlotte who had said something about our prophet Muhammad. You may go back and read all that. It had nothing to do with you. Please note that my post was in reply to some abusive post by charlotte.

If charlottes feels that she had something to support her then I have also the Da Vinci Code to support me. I do not consider the book Da Vinci Code (and the film) as anything for fiction. I believe it to be true. I need to believe like that and I will not forego taht belief about the marriage of Jesus with Mary Magd as long as some Catholic persons here on the forum are accusing my prophet with crimes.

Otherwise Muhammad taught us to love jesus and Moses and Mary and the disciples. **There is not a bad word to be found in our books about Jesus or Moses or Mary. If Muhamamd can be so good and sensible (in praise of those men/women of God) then how can he himslef be bad? Not possible.
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Did Muhammad teach you through the Koran to love Jesus’s followers or for that matter the rest of mankind (what do you say about his treatment of Jews?)

It’s not enough to say that Muhammed “taught us to love Jesus Moses and Mary” he lived a life contrary to Jesus (and what He preached). Do you understand why we cannot love Muhammad? Nothing would induce us to follow a “prophet” whose legacy was hate and a life of sinfulness when we have Jesus who taught us unconditional love (for God and all men) and holiness.
 
Anyway, getting back on track of the thread…

You could open the scene on a 6 year old girl playing with her dolls. A 54 year old man comes into the room. He starts to play with her (not the dolls). He then sees a crawling baby in the same room and announces that he wants to marry her when she is old enough (chilling even for the mother). Other than that I guess there would be mass bloodshed and a multitude of prostitutes that he tries to cover with sacks like hijabs.
 
planten said:
I believe in Da Vinci Code 100 % because it is the work of a very great genious Leonardo Da Vinci.
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Ha! What a laugh! Da Vinci didn’t even write The Da Vinci Code. I have lots of books about Islam and Mohammed written by modern geniuses, and guess what! I believe them all 100% because they expose the truth about Mohammed and Islam.
 
sedonaman said:
We’ve been over this ground before in other threads. It would be a valid comparison if the pro-life movement doctrine was one of violent, forced conversion of abortionist doctors. The sheer magnitude of the ratio of murders by Islamic terrorists to those by anti-abortion terrorists [something in the order of tens of thousands to maybe two] is such that it demonstrates the power of the command for Islamic jihad.

Note that I agree that anti-abortion terrorists are murderers; find me one Muslim here who is willing to call Islamic terrorists what they are by any standard of decency.
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Indeed my example may have sounded weak to you. If there would be a whole group of, say, at least 1,000 people among the pro-lifers who decided to murder the abortionist doctors, would then the pro-life movement have to be blamed for it?
As for Muslims denouncing themselves the “Islamic terrorists”, never forget that it takes courage to do it at the risk of being murdered AND having their families risking the same fate! Even going underground then can be very, very risky!!!
 
planten said:
** charlotte, you are adamant. I believe in Da Vinci Code 100 % because it is the work of a very great genious Leonardo Da Vinci. You may not believe him but I do. So the marriage of Jesus with Mary Magd is a truth and there is no harm in telling the truth. (as you said it)
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**Planten, before you embarass yourself further please know that the Da Vinci Code is a fiction book written by Dan Brown - not Leonardo Da Vinci. Here is a link to it amazon.co.uk/Da-Vinci-Code-Dan-Brown/dp/0552154016/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236791526&sr=8-2 - after reading your comments I really doubt you have ever read it yourself. Please stop beleiving the lies you are told to make Islam a true religion. **
 
chrisse said:
There are too many innocent people, non-muslim and muslim, who are being denied their basic human rights, their basic human dignity, because of allah’s laws for all mankind for eternity without change.

The problem IS Islam.
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Hum! It’s also true in countries not Islamic at all, you know!
China, Chile (under Pinochet), the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe… Nazi Germany… Henry VIII’s and Elizabeth the 1st’s England…
 
rtconstant said:
Would he be fighting angels when they attack Mecca III? 😃
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Mohammed would get into his Mo-55 mecha and blast the Angel Mechas out of the sky! Then he’d come face to face with the Jinn, a gang of space pirates who use smokeless fire to burn their opponents. And as the climax, there would be a huge ant battle!
 
CatholicRevert1 said:
Planten, before you embarass yourself further please know that the Da Vinci Code is a fiction book written by Dan Brown - not Leonardo Da Vinci. Here is a link to it amazon.co.uk/Da-Vinci-Code-Dan-Brown/dp/0552154016/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236791526&sr=8-2 - after reading your comments I really doubt you have ever read it yourself. Please stop beleiving the lies you are told to make Islam a true religion.
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Whoa, CatholicRevert1 !
The Qu’ran speaks of Jesus as a man of God, so I doubt that planten would want to denigrate him! Right, planten?
 
Lapell said:
If there would be a whole group of, say, at least 1,000 people among the pro-lifers who decided to murder the abortionist doctors, would then the pro-life movement have to be blamed for it?
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I believe I answered that when I said, “It would be a valid comparison if the pro-life doctrine was one of violent, forced conversion of abortionist doctors.”

Where is the goal stated that jihad is a method of furthering the pro-life movement?
As for Muslims denouncing themselves the “Islamic terrorists”, never forget that it takes courage to do it at the risk of being murdered AND having their families risking the same fate! Even going underground then can be very, very risky!!!
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I don’t know what you have been reading, but suicide murderers are revered as martyrs in Muslim communities, AND their families are given a $25,000 “reward” for “sacrificing” their sons Saddam Hussein participated in this “philanthropy” when he was in power [not sure about the amount for daughters since a woman is worth only half a man according to Islam].
 
Lapell said:
Hum! It’s also true in countries not Islamic at all, you know!
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So what??? As I have said many times, it is completely irrelevant.
In simple terms, two wrongs don’t make a right.

There are objective standards by which to judge regimes, such as the UN Declaration of Human Rights and The Golden Rule. Since we are discussing Mohammed and not other dictators, bringing them down to the level of Mohammed might be an effective tactic, but that doesn’t make Islamic countries any more right. And that’s why it is completely irrelevant.
 
Lapell said:
Whoa, CatholicRevert1 !
The Qu’ran speaks of Jesus as a man of God, so I doubt that planten would want to denigrate him! Right, planten?
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The topic of this thread is Mohammed. You and planten should meet on another thread if you want to discuss Jesus.
 
sedonaman said:
I don’t know what you have been reading, but suicide murderers are revered as martyrs in Muslim communities, AND their families are given a $25,000 “reward” for “sacrificing” their sons Saddam Hussein participated in this “philanthropy” when he was in power [not sure about the amount for daughters since a woman is worth only half a man according to Islam].
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Sounds like those who used to denounced others not in line with the Communist (or Socialist) Bolsheviks in the former Soviet Union…
 
You blame Islam altogether… I don’t deny the possibility per se, but to blame just that religion in itself seems to me quite easy, You don’t remember how the Iraqis used to shout anti-American things at the soldiers, but as soon as Sadaam Hussein was arrested and they were showed pictures proving it, my! did they sing a totally different tune. No more anti-americanism then! (that was before the American wouldn’t leave Iraq as quickly as they had promised: then some anti-Americanism went back, only not in the whole of the population this time…) This is why I want to be careful as to how to interpret violent demonstrations and the events happening in Islamic countries!
 
I also once was in an Amnesty International local group in my native province(Quebec), and so I know that there often is a matter of politics having not so many things to do with religion even when it claims to be linked to it.
(For the record, I totally disagree with the stance Amnesty International is taking not only in favour of abortion, but of forcing the doctors not infavour of abortion to perform them (if I haven’t misread the news about AI.)
 
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