A movie about Muhammad

[planten]

Sinner certainly.
Only Christ is perfect.

You wish it so. Bad dreams and wishes will never be realised.

 

[R_not]

You wish it so. Bad dreams and wishes will never be realised.

No one wishes it - mohammed just behaved so poorly that not only did he not obey what he set out as the rules for sin such as committing shirk, he redefined sin so he could do whatever he pleased. All he had to say was ‘allah said it was ok’, or ‘allah ordered it’ and he got away with whatever he wanted.

As for mohammed committing shirk - there is a thread about that on this forum. Go check it out - mohammed set himself right there with allah. It seems that allah couldn’t do a number of things without mohammad helping him. Well, considering that allah didn’t even know that we would leave the ‘zone of the earth’ - I don’t think that allah knew too much and was a very, needy god. :takeoff:

 

[Verisimilitude]

You wish it so. Bad dreams and wishes will never be realised.

Mohammeds bad dreams and wishes were realized so even that statment of yours is false.

Why do you honor such a man? Assume for a moment he received no revelations and was a common man- would you still think his actions (sexual relations with children, sexual relations with his adopted sons wife, assassinations of people for mocking him, robbing caravans and communities for profit…) as good?

Moslems hold Jesus as a good and honorable man despite what Catholic/Christians say about him because of his works and words. I assume Moslems think of Jesus this way becasue he did not have sex with children or family members, steal, murder or lie…all things that Mohammed has done.

Islam makes a mockery of what is good and honorable by honoring Mohammed and Jesus together, and Mohammeds claim that he is most close to Jesus in this world and the next is maybe the most offensive thing I can think of.

 

[R_not]

Mohammeds bad dreams and wishes were realized so even that statment of yours is false.

Why do you honor such a man? Assume for a moment he received no revelations and was a common man- would you still think his actions (sexual relations with children, sexual relations with his adopted sons wife, assassinations of people for mocking him, robbing caravans and communities for profit…) as good?

Moslems hold Jesus as a good and honorable man despite what Catholic/Christians say about him because of his works and words. I assume Moslems think of Jesus this way becasue he did not have sex with children or family members, steal, murder or lie…all things that Mohammed has done.

Islam makes a mockery of what is good and honorable by honoring Mohammed and Jesus together, and Mohammeds claim that he is most close to Jesus in this world and the next is maybe the most offensive thing I can think of.

Actually, I have heard from muslims - and that includes planten - that they don’t honor the fact he didn’t have a wife(s) and kids.

I don’t think they know why they honor Jesus. mohammed told them to do so, so they once again follow blindly. And the Isa of the koran is not the Jesus of the Bible. mohammed made a bunch of stuff about Isa. It seems that the apostles, who were around Jesus on a daily basis for three years, didn’t know as much as an illiterate pagan that was born centuries later.

“If it doesn’t make sense then it isn’t true!” Judge Judy who spouts that sentence quite often when she senses a lying plaintiff or defense. And that is how I feel about the koran and islam.

 

[josie_L]

Actually, I have heard from muslims - and that includes planten - that they don’t honor the fact he didn’t have a wife(s) and kids.

I don’t think they know why they honor Jesus. mohammed told them to do so, so they once again follow blindly. And the Isa of the koran is not the Jesus of the Bible. mohammed made a bunch of stuff about Isa. It seems that the apostles, who were around Jesus on a daily basis for three years, didn’t know as much as an illiterate pagan that was born centuries later.

“If it doesn’t make sense then it isn’t true!” Judge Judy who spouts that sentence quite often when she senses a lying plaintiff or defense. And that is how I feel about the koran and islam.

R_not, have we reached the sequel, yet?

 

[R_not]

R_not, have we reached the sequel, yet?

Probably. The sequel would be the two largest factions that islam split into - the sunni and the shia. Maybe start the sequel at the time mohammed got poisoned by one of the women he raped and enslaved - do a flashback on that event while showing him and his followers killing and enslaving the members of her family in front of her (that would mean she would be seeing her other women, and girl and boy children, raped). A traumatic event that left her with some serious hate.

And then mohammed, a bloated self, gobbling up her poisoned meat.

The sequel would also have to show the followers of mohammed leaving him after he died. Because something like that did indeed happen. They would be fleeing and leaving islam too. It was probably the ones who were sick of eternal warfare, and the ones who converted out of fear. While the more thuggish ones would be staying and continuing on his legacy of jihad.

For me it fizzles out right about here because it is just endless jihad in the Middle East for a number of centuries until the Crusaders were called in to try to stop them. The slave trade would be stepped up too.

Maybe an interesting part would be the capture of the slaves and what (or at least hint to what) they do to these unfortunate souls. The mutiliation, the use and abuse of them in all manner - physical, sexually and mental abuse; and then the tossing them into the streets to fend for themselves after they are no longer youthful or physically able to carry on in a society that will offer them no way to make a living except to hope that a person throw them some food.