A Muslim Soldier's View from Fort Hood

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All this new commentary is interesting but also a little discouraging. On one hand, an Atheist is arguing against those who believe in God, including both victim(s) and perpetrator(s) alike; and on the other, a Christian is apparently finding an oppurtunity to deride the religion of [an]other(s), (one that also includes both victims and perpetrators alike).

And this is a fundamental divide among both the Atheist and the Believer: Is it better to be a victim or a perpetrator?

One might find that, at least on this issue, some Atheists might agree with some Believers, and yet other Believers will agree with other Atheists; so that the division will no longer be between Atheist and Believer, but between those siding one way or another [on the issue].

In my interpretation, one of the main lessons I’ve learned [from reading the Bible] is that it was O.K. to be a victim; that it was even, as it were, desirable.

And this contradicts with much of what I have been taught, and much of what is made available for interpretation, and also the very nature of our selves.

Yet in learning this lesson, (a lesson I am still learning), I have by necessity grown more distant from pride and self-reliance, from hatred and malice; and nearer to an understanding that life is a miracle that is yet too great for [my] comprehension, and one for which I can make no claim of authorship, provision, or propagation.
 
You are following the Gospel when you accept being a victim and finding new life in Jesus Christ…Who was No myth.

I just don’t appreciate people insulting us as believers in myth–defying our long and culturally rich faith with the topic regarding the worst crime against our military in our own country. The military is now completely infiltrated. And the 9/11 defendants are now going to further abuse our injury in civil court when they are not US citizens. We have now a leftist government hell bent marginalizing our own people.

But what a good time to grow in Christ. Many are now signing the Declaration of Manhattan…
 
Psalm 62 (of David):

1: Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation.
2: He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved.
3: How long will ye imagine mischief against a man? ye shall be slain all of you: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence.
4: They only consult to cast him down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.
5: My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.
6: He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved.
7: In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.
8: Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.
9: Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.
10: Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.
11: God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.
12: Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.
 
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It’s probably more accurate to say western civilization developed as it did in spite of Christianity (rather than because of it).
**I can’t take credit for this reply but I had to display it all the same because it fit my sentiments to a tee: **

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543), who first proposed the heliocentric universe, was a Polish Catholic priest.

Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, was an Austrian Catholic monk.

The Jesuit astronomer Christopher Scheiner (1575-1650) discovered sunspots before Galileo.

Jesuit Pietro Angelo Secchi (1818-1878) discovered 4,000 new stars. His system for star classification is the basis of the Harvard system.

In fact there are no fewer than 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuit scientists alone.

The Big Bang Theory was proposed in 1927 by Georges Lemaitre (1894-1966), a Belgian Catholic priest.

The Jesuit Giambattista Riccioli was the first person to determine the rate of acceleration of a free-falling body, and the first to make a pendulum that was so accurate he was able to calculate the gravitational constant.

Another Jesuit priest, Francesco Maria Grimaldi, discovered the diffraction of light. Grimaldi’s discovery led to hypotheses on the wavelike character of light and to Isaac Newton’s interest in optics.

The lightning rod was invented by a Norbertine priest named Procopius Divisch (1698-1765).

French Catholic priest Rene-Just Haey (1743-1822) was the father of modern crystallography.

But why just list priests? Some scientists who were laymen and convinced and practicing Catholics …

The founder of bacteriology, Louis Pasteur. Andre Ampere. Alessandra Volta. Charles Coulomb.

How about mathematician Blaise Pascal, who when he wasn’t inventing calculators was writing the Pensees, a defence of Catholicism?

Heliocentricism was finally accepted not due to Galileos advocacy, but thanks to the stunning success that Keplers Rudolphine tables saved the planetary movements. Kepler, of course, was driven to his elliptical orbits precisely by his belief in a God who didnt get the orbit of Mars wrong by a few minutes. All his science was informed and inspired by his religious belief. So, Professor Grayling asks for one contribution to science made by Christianity. I offer Keplers laws.

There are many other possibilities. Taxonomy is directly descended from the scientific studies of Noahs Arc in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. The need to determine the number of animals led to the concept of a member of one species as something that couldnt reproduce with a member of another. Likewise, very many early taxonomies were attempts to count how many animals were on the arc and how big it had to be.

An even more surprising connection is the way that concerns about grace spread into the mathematics of change. Fourteenth century scholars wanted to understand how the Holy Spirit imparted grace to individuals. Quite quickly, the techniques they had adopted were turned to thinking about other kinds of change. They also moved on to motion and cracked the problem of uniformly accelerated motion over two centuries before Galileo.

In fact, as I have found, Christianity had an important impact on every step of the road to modern science. Let me now summarise exactly what they were:

The preservation of literacy in the Dark Ages

Because it is a literary religion based on sacred texts and informed by the writings of the early church fathers, Christianity was exclusively responsible for the preservation of literacy and learning after the fall of the Western Empire. This meant not only that the Latin classics were preserved but also that their were sufficient men of learning to take Greek thought forward when it was rediscovered.

The doctrine of the lawfulness of nature

As they believed in a law abiding creator God, even before the rediscovery of Greek thought, twelfth century Christians felt they could investigate the natural world for secondary causes rather than put everything down to fate (like the ancients) or the will of Allah (like Moslems). Although we see a respect for the powers of reason by Arab scholars they did not seem to make the step of looking for universal laws of nature.

The need to examine the real world rather than rely on pure reason

Christians insisted that God could have created the world any way he like and so Aristotle’s insistence that the world was the way it was because it had to be was successfully challenged. This meant that his ideas started to be tested and abandoned if they did not measure up.

The belief that science was a sacred duty

This is not so much covered in this essay, but features again and again in scientific writing. The early modern scientists were inspired by their faith to make their discoveries and saw studying the creation of God as a form of worship. This led to a respect for nature and the attempt to find simple, economical solutions to problems. Hence Copernicus felt he could propose a heliocentric model for no better reason that it seemed more elegant.

Not all these factors were unique to Christianity but they all came together in Western Europe to give the world its only case of scientific take off which has since seen its ideas spread to the rest of the world. "
 
Great post, Josie. 👍
**I can’t take credit for this reply but I had to display it all the same because it fit my sentiments to a tee: **

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543), who first proposed the heliocentric universe, was a Polish Catholic priest.

Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, was an Austrian Catholic monk.

The Jesuit astronomer Christopher Scheiner (1575-1650) discovered sunspots before Galileo.

Jesuit Pietro Angelo Secchi (1818-1878) discovered 4,000 new stars. His system for star classification is the basis of the Harvard system.

In fact there are no fewer than 35 craters on the moon named after Jesuit scientists alone.

The Big Bang Theory was proposed in 1927 by Georges Lemaitre (1894-1966), a Belgian Catholic priest.

The Jesuit Giambattista Riccioli was the first person to determine the rate of acceleration of a free-falling body, and the first to make a pendulum that was so accurate he was able to calculate the gravitational constant.

Another Jesuit priest, Francesco Maria Grimaldi, discovered the diffraction of light. Grimaldi’s discovery led to hypotheses on the wavelike character of light and to Isaac Newton’s interest in optics.

The lightning rod was invented by a Norbertine priest named Procopius Divisch (1698-1765).

French Catholic priest Rene-Just Haey (1743-1822) was the father of modern crystallography.

But why just list priests? Some scientists who were laymen and convinced and practicing Catholics …

The founder of bacteriology, Louis Pasteur. Andre Ampere. Alessandra Volta. Charles Coulomb.

How about mathematician Blaise Pascal, who when he wasn’t inventing calculators was writing the Pensees, a defence of Catholicism?

Heliocentricism was finally accepted not due to Galileos advocacy, but thanks to the stunning success that Keplers Rudolphine tables saved the planetary movements. Kepler, of course, was driven to his elliptical orbits precisely by his belief in a God who didnt get the orbit of Mars wrong by a few minutes. All his science was informed and inspired by his religious belief. So, Professor Grayling asks for one contribution to science made by Christianity. I offer Keplers laws.

There are many other possibilities. Taxonomy is directly descended from the scientific studies of Noahs Arc in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. The need to determine the number of animals led to the concept of a member of one species as something that couldnt reproduce with a member of another. Likewise, very many early taxonomies were attempts to count how many animals were on the arc and how big it had to be.

An even more surprising connection is the way that concerns about grace spread into the mathematics of change. Fourteenth century scholars wanted to understand how the Holy Spirit imparted grace to individuals. Quite quickly, the techniques they had adopted were turned to thinking about other kinds of change. They also moved on to motion and cracked the problem of uniformly accelerated motion over two centuries before Galileo.

In fact, as I have found, Christianity had an important impact on every step of the road to modern science. Let me now summarise exactly what they were:

The preservation of literacy in the Dark Ages

Because it is a literary religion based on sacred texts and informed by the writings of the early church fathers, Christianity was exclusively responsible for the preservation of literacy and learning after the fall of the Western Empire. This meant not only that the Latin classics were preserved but also that their were sufficient men of learning to take Greek thought forward when it was rediscovered.

The doctrine of the lawfulness of nature

As they believed in a law abiding creator God, even before the rediscovery of Greek thought, twelfth century Christians felt they could investigate the natural world for secondary causes rather than put everything down to fate (like the ancients) or the will of Allah (like Moslems). Although we see a respect for the powers of reason by Arab scholars they did not seem to make the step of looking for universal laws of nature.

The need to examine the real world rather than rely on pure reason

Christians insisted that God could have created the world any way he like and so Aristotle’s insistence that the world was the way it was because it had to be was successfully challenged. This meant that his ideas started to be tested and abandoned if they did not measure up.

The belief that science was a sacred duty

This is not so much covered in this essay, but features again and again in scientific writing. The early modern scientists were inspired by their faith to make their discoveries and saw studying the creation of God as a form of worship. This led to a respect for nature and the attempt to find simple, economical solutions to problems. Hence Copernicus felt he could propose a heliocentric model for no better reason that it seemed more elegant.

Not all these factors were unique to Christianity but they all came together in Western Europe to give the world its only case of scientific take off which has since seen its ideas spread to the rest of the world. "
 
For those who don’t know what “taqquiyya” is:

Muslims have made lying and dissembling an integral part of their religion. WE CANNOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE!!! Given the chance, they will kill us all!!
Do Muslims know anthting about love?
This word seems to be absent from their life. They even treat their woman like cattle.
Are they happy?

bluelake
 
Do Muslims know anthting about love?
This word seems to be absent from their life. They even treat their woman like cattle.
Are they happy?

bluelake
They definitely have a low regard for human life. Life is cheap in Islam, sadly. I also detest the way they treat women and believe they have to impose their Sharia law and religion on everyone and everything at all times. Their religion does not leave room for a secular society. Catholicism and Protestantism respect secular authority, and they disagree with it often times but they do so within the framework of the secular law. As a Catholic, I loathe abortion with every fiber of my being and I will fight like crazy to see it abolished but unfortunately it’s the law right now and I have to fight it within the law. Peaceful demonstrations, education, prayer, political action, voting choices, standing in front of abortion clinics, etc. are all options. But blowing people up in suicide raids, killing congressman who are pro-choice, blowing up government buildings, and anyone linked to abortion is equally sinful. It’s sad stuff. But Muslims see no secular authority in anything, at least the extreme muslims that is. They view Sharia as the only destiny of the planet earth and there is no love in it whatsoever.
 
Psalm 62 (of David):
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3: How long will ye imagine mischief against a man? ye shall be slain all of you: as a bowing wall shall ye be, and as a tottering fence.
…]
Alternate translations [often] render a significantly different interpretation of this verse.
 
I have seen reports that the shooter was a born Muslim. His family came forward and said this is not what their faith was about, so I assumed was was born muslim…? But everybody and their brother will now have a “story” about the shooter. Dont believe everything you read.

Either way he was a disturbed man and shame on those who use Islam to to further their smear campaign cause.
Hasan knew exactly what he was doing. He was a jihadist.
By the way, he was also a member of Obama’s transition team…seriously.
How does one explain that? 😊
 
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event(s). A similar motive is to alert others of the potential for certain material(s) to significantly alter the emotive state. And yet another motive is/was to facilitate the/my declaration of [any] undisclosed information.

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Here’s a link to another song/video:
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Angelo Michael,

The psalm you gave is the best therapy to center one’s self, to deliver one’s self from narcissim and to live for something far greater than one’s self.

I might add about the politics, a humble Protestant woman told me her simple prayer group received an insight about the times we are in…and their inspiration was that all that we are seeing must come to light…

Just like an infection is being drawn into the light so all can see it for what it is…to be lanced.

We are coming to an end of a particular time, to endure in the path you have shared, let everything fall into place where we are meant to be, and wait to see Good triumph over evil.

Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Josie,

You have a keeper…there is an article floating out in cyberspace about Mendel and Darwin…very interesting…and now I am reading that Darwin has been overrated…that is all I can say for now…

We are heading out…

Have a blessed and Happy Thanksgiving!

May the Lord perservere our country and deliver us from the enemy!
 
Josie,

You have a keeper…there is an article floating out in cyberspace about Mendel and Darwin…very interesting…and now I am reading that Darwin has been overrated…that is all I can say for now…

We are heading out…

Have a blessed and Happy Thanksgiving!

May the Lord perservere our country and deliver us from the enemy!
Have a blessed and Happy Thanksgiving!!!
 
**I can’t take credit for this reply but I had to display it all the same because it fit my sentiments to a tee: **

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543), who first proposed the heliocentric universe, was a Polish Catholic priest.

Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, was an Austrian Catholic monk.
Indeed this is all factual (and nothing I would argue against). After the Galileo affair it’s clear the CC realized the importance of science (and I think even before the unfortunate affair history suggests there was some interest in science among CC leadership, even if not to the degree seen after Galileo).

The same is seen with other religious groups (particularly fundamental protestants). Nevertheless it’s not relevant to my previous point.

It can’t be denied that the church operated as a theocracy (at least prior to the reformation). Even after the reformation both the CC and protestant splinter groups were terribly harsh in their dogma. There ability to act as an oppressive force was the result of intermingling church and state.

The impetus to break the bond between church and state was purely driven by the secularist thinkers of the enlightenment. Not all were atheists (so much I concede, although I think if they had the benefit of the information we have today many of them would be … albeit with a few exceptions like perhaps John Locke, although I’m not even sure if Locke’s faith could have withstood the evidence we have today, but that’s obviously speculative).

Furthermore, the commentary pertaining to Darwin I’m reading in this thread is misguided (sorry to put that way, but it simply is). Adaptive evolution is no longer seriously questioned by any credible evolutionary scientist. We have millions of fossils and other forms of evidence that provide a very clear picture of evolution (we even have the skeletons of 14 different species of hominids for goodness sake, our evolutionary ancestors). Indeed few within the Christian community (including the CC) tries to deny evolution anymore (although they’ve somehow done a great job in keeping the faithful from fleeing to secularism, notwithstanding how much of the bible we today know could not have happened. Not only the beginning chapters of Genesis, but the entire Exodus narrative is outside the range of historical possibility). Indeed we can even trace the mythological roots of the creation story (and I would argue many other biblical themes as well).

Not that I expect the religious to somehow snap out of it (I’ve learned by now that’s not going to happen). Faith or lack thereof is a very personal decision we make. As silly as I think it is – I’m painfully aware facts will not bear on this debate (or facts will be taken out of context or misapplied because of the strong inclination to fit them into a religious worldview). For instance, is it really relevant to mention the fact that there were numerous notable Catholic scientists during the 19th century and prior? The reasoning of the church (for its aggressive involvement with science) should be obvious enough. Science is the single most profound threat to religion (so it obviously behooves the church to remain engaged in science).

Science operates from observed reality. They usually don’t create a theory from nothing. For example Darwin observed nature (he went on a worldwide voyage observing nature in places like the Galapagos Islands); and from those observations he formulated a theory to best explain what he witnessed. What he witnessed was adaptive evolution (or natural selection). The theory that species (or sub-species) who can best adapt to their environment are more likely to survive & grow with greater success – is better framed as the obvious conclusion given what Darwin observed (rather than a theory). However, unfortunately there are many religious people who don’t understand evolution is a fact (many still believe there’s a reasonable basis for debating the soundness of evolutionary science, which is simply ridiculous at this point).
 
**1 Samuel 2 (Song of Hannah):

1: And Hannah prayed, and said, My heart rejoiceth in the LORD, mine horn is exalted in the LORD: my mouth is enlarged over mine enemies; because I rejoice in thy salvation.
2: There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
3: Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.
4: The bows of the mighty men are broken, and they that stumbled are girded with strength.
5: They that were full have hired out themselves for bread; and they that were hungry ceased: so that the barren hath born seven; and she that hath many children is waxed feeble.
6: The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.
7: The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
8: He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’s, and he hath set the world upon them.
9: He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.
10: The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

Luke 1 (Song of Mary):

46: And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47: And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48: For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49: For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
50: And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
51: He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
52: He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
53: He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
54: He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
55: As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. **
 
Psalm 71 (of David):

1: In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.
2: Deliver me in thy righteousness, and cause me to escape: incline thine ear unto me, and save me.
3: Be thou my strong habitation, whereunto I may continually resort: thou hast given commandment to save me; for thou art my rock and my fortress.
4: Deliver me, O my God, out of the hand of the wicked, out of the hand of the unrighteous and cruel man.
5: For thou art my hope, O Lord GOD: thou art my trust from my youth.
6: By thee have I been holden up from the womb: thou art he that took me out of my mother’s bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.
7: I am as a wonder unto many; but thou art my strong refuge.
8: Let my mouth be filled with thy praise and with thy honour all the day.
9: Cast me not off in the time of old age; forsake me not when my strength faileth.
10: For mine enemies speak against me; and they that lay wait for my soul take counsel together,
11: Saying, God hath forsaken him: persecute and take him; for there is none to deliver him.
12: O God, be not far from me: O my God, make haste for my help.
13: Let them be confounded and consumed that are adversaries to my soul; let them be covered with reproach and dishonour that seek my hurt.
14: But I will hope continually, and will yet praise thee more and more.
15: My mouth shall shew forth thy righteousness and thy salvation all the day; for I know not the numbers thereof.
16: I will go in the strength of the Lord GOD: I will make mention of thy righteousness, even of thine only.
17: O God, thou hast taught me from my youth: and hitherto have I declared thy wondrous works.
18: Now also when I am old and grayheaded, O God, forsake me not; until I have shewed thy strength unto this generation, and thy power to every one that is to come.
19: Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!
20: Thou, which hast shewed me great and sore troubles, shalt quicken me again, and shalt bring me up again from the depths of the earth.
21: Thou shalt increase my greatness, and comfort me on every side.
22: I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth, O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.
23: My lips shall greatly rejoice when I sing unto thee; and my soul, which thou hast redeemed.
24: My tongue also shall talk of thy righteousness all the day long: for they are confounded, for they are brought unto shame, that seek my hurt.
 
If a Muslim views the transition of power that’s happening in the middle east as a ‘religious war’ that muslim is the enemy. Bottom line. The fact that this U.S. soldier didn’t see the war in Afghanistan as a transition to a government of the people, by the peiople, and for the people of Afghanistan and preferred to identify with the obsolete regimes should have been warning eneogh to reprimand him with a seize and desist untill dishonorably discharged if he refused.

If there is a lesson to learn from this, it is to recognize that the Muslim’s who define this war as a religious war are the enemy. The only Muslim’s that can be trusted are those who define this war as a transition to less oppressive governments that enable the Muslim nations to participate with the rest of the nations of the world in a partnership built on respect for common laws of interaction that foster mutual trust.

Only the Muslim’s in power are threatened not the Muslim religion. The Muslim’s in power are pulling the religion card.
 
Psalm 38 (of David):
Code:
1: O LORD, rebuke me not in thy wrath: neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure.
2: For thine arrows stick fast in me, and thy hand presseth me sore.
3: There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.
4: For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.
5: My wounds stink and are corrupt because of my foolishness.
6: I am troubled; I am bowed down greatly; I go mourning all the day long.
7: For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh.
8: I am feeble and sore broken: I have roared by reason of the disquietness of my heart.
9: Lord, all my desire is before thee; and my groaning is not hid from thee.
10: My heart panteth, my strength faileth me: as for the light of mine eyes, it also is gone from me.
11: My lovers and my friends stand aloof from my sore; and my kinsmen stand afar off.
12: They also that seek after my life lay snares for me: and they that seek my hurt speak mischievous things, and imagine deceits all the day long.
13: But I, as a deaf man, heard not; and I was as a dumb man that openeth not his mouth.
14: Thus I was as a man that heareth not, and in whose mouth are no reproofs.
15: For in thee, O LORD, do I hope: thou wilt hear, O Lord my God.
16: For I said, Hear me, lest otherwise they should rejoice over me: when my foot slippeth, they magnify themselves against me.
17: For I am ready to halt, and my sorrow is continually before me.
18: For I will declare mine iniquity; I will be sorry for my sin.
19: But mine enemies are lively, and they are strong: and they that hate me wrongfully are multiplied.
20: They also that render evil for good are mine adversaries; because I follow the thing that good is.
21: Forsake me not, O LORD: O my God, be not far from me.
22: Make haste to help me, O Lord my salvation.
 
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