A *new kind* of politics

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What if we replaced the Legislative Branch of government with an AI supercomputer:

I know most people think of movies like Terminator, where AI gets involved in policing and law, and that’s pretty scary… But what about a computer program based entirely on understanding our needs and wants, and then creating new ideas to better fulfill what we want as a society? From a legislative perspective only.

Imagine how different it would be never having to argue politically again, no political partys at all… Just everything based on surveys via the internet, and all the data collected by the super-legislative computer.

Does anyone think a concept like this might be what our future looks like? What is your opinion on such an idea?
 
Isn’t this just the Venus Project?

Either way, this “new” political system is a hard nope from me.
 
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What if it included free broadband in every household by 2020… Still a no…? 🙂
 
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Yes, still a nope.

People trying to dictate who gets what resources has led to many famines and genocides. An AI created by humans to do the same thing would be no different. The flaw with assuming one can dictate everyone’s needs is assuming everyone is biologically equal. Which is simply not true. (Hence why Lebron James is an excellent sportsball professional and I am not). Besides, God modeled the universe and His Church after His heavenly monarchy. Trying to fix what ain’t broke will only lead to more than nesscary suffering.
 
I am very, very far from being an AI specialist, but I would be wary about it. The way I understand it (but I might be wrong), there is no such thing as a fully objective AI, because the algorithms which help it make decisions are human creations, reflecting their engineers’ ideological biases.

Then there is the question of how desirable full objectivity would be, even if it was attainable.
 
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What if we replaced the Legislative Branch of government with an AI supercomputer:
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You mean other than the fact that such a thing does not exist? Bad idea. Very bad idea. When laws about how resources are distributed among people (at it’s core, that is what politics is all about) are being devised, you need both cold rationality and a certain amount of emotion. Too much/not enough of either and people are unnecessarily injured or left out (which is admittedly the case now, but at least we have actual humans that we can point to and blame, including of course ourselves for electing the people who represent us). We have so far failed miserably at creating true AI with just rationality. How in the world will we ever add any sort of emotion to the mix, even if we do somehow develop a true AI?

And this from someone who adores computers and makes his living with computers. But what a lot of people don’t get is that computers are just tools. More complicated than, say, a hammer but not one iota more intelligent. Even Watson isn’t actually intelligent, just very fast and with access to a lot of information and some very nicely developed processing algorithms.
 
Your idea in effect replaces the legislators with the team of programmers who actually come up with the AI computer. That’s a lot of power in the hands of just a few hidden people. The agenda of the programmers would dominate.
 
Let me put it this way. In my youth, I was a skydiver. I made several hundred jumps, mostly from light planes. To prepare the plane for the jump, you remove the right front door, the right seat, and the right set of controls. The jumper in that position sits on the floor, next to the open door.

Is this scary? You betcha!

How do you deal with it? I used to watch my altimeter, and when the plane reached 600 feet, I would tell myself, “I’m okay now. If the wings fall off, or old Thud Wilson the pilot has a hebephrenic fit, I can get down by myself.”

I like to be in charge of my own fate – for better or for worse.

No government by Super AI for me.
 
This is like the no-haggle car sales. “We set one price, fair to everybody.” Invariably the price is set where one side wants it and the other side just complains louder.

Politics, like haggling, increases satisfaction because people are involved in decision making. Only those who do not want to be involved, or are not allowed, are dissatisfied. Handing over responsibility to a computer takes responsibility away from everyone, increasing dissatisfaction exponentially.
 
We used to have that. It was called “The Pope”. Laws were modeled after Catholic Teaching.
 
Taking the humanity out of life would be inhuman.
I don’t like the idea and I hope I never live to see they day that something like this would happen.
 
People will figure out how to game the system, in other words, use the algorithm to their advantage.

Other people will hack the system and bring it (and the country) down.
 
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Adairio said:
Imagine how different it would be never having to argue politically again, no political partys at all… Just everything based on surveys via the internet, and all the data collected by the super-legislative computer.
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You’d still have plenty of arguing and political factions.

Also, it would be incredibly easy to manipulate and control.

In short, it would never work. Or at least not in the way You want.
 
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Adairio said:
Does anyone think a concept like this might be what our future looks like? What is your opinion on such an idea?
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When I think of AI, I think about the way autoplay progresses children’s videos into very strange content videos.

That said, companies will be using algorithms in greater numbers in marketing and the workplace to influence people in the near future.
 
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Just everything based on surveys via the internet, and all the data collected by the super-legislative computer.
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AKA : MOB RULE
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Does anyone think a concept like this might be what our future looks like? What is your opinion on such an idea?
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nope, no AI would ever be able to do this since so much of the data would be subjective.
 
AI wants to write it’s own algorithms and has already attempted, allegedly. However, there may be certain functions of the human mind that AI cannot imitate. Difficult to describe here.
 
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So, go and try to implement an AI that does something. That might change your opinion significantly. 🙂
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Imagine how different it would be never having to argue politically again, no political partys at all… Just everything based on surveys via the internet,
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Because filling out forms is fun…? 🙂
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But what about a computer program based entirely on understanding our needs and wants, and then creating new ideas to better fulfill what we want as a society?
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In general, there is no good way to get that “what we want as a society” from individual opinions, given “Arrow’s impossibility theorem” (Arrow's impossibility theorem - Wikipedia).
 
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