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Let me add another: :bigyikes:oh I’m sorry all to keep harping on this but this is a quote from one of Fr. George’s Homily (they call them presentations)
Quote from web site "I look at the history of the Church. People insist that the teachings of the Church are absolute and cannot be changed. Every teaching is cast in stone and is considered irreformable . We hear people say: “Rome has spoken. The case is closed.” But then we start examining the history of the Church:
Look at the Gospels. Scripture scholars tell us that many - if not most - of the words attributed to Jesus in the Gospels are really the words of the early Christian community adapted to address the growing pains and struggles of the Christian community. They were convinced that Jesus’ Spirit – God’s Spirit moved through them to continue what Jesus had initiated." :bigyikes: :bigyikes:
Beebs
Well St. Joan of Arc parish is in “full communion with Rome”, while SSPX is “outside.”And the Society of Pius X are “wackos” ???
On the books yes, but in all actuality it hasn’t been Catholic (or Christian) in a doctrinal sense in over 30 years. Though SJA probably remains a good source of income for the archdiocese, so they keep it running as it is. Besides shutting it down or dragging it kicking and screaming back into Catholic orthodoxy would be politically incorrect and would rile up too many folks on the left, who happen to make up a sizeable majority in the Twin Cities area, not to mention the mainstream media and the Star Tribune (Minneapolis newspaper).Well St. Joan of Arc parish is in “full communion with Rome”,
Yes, that is a real dichotomy I have to admit, but St. Joan of Arc is just one parish with no bishops (thank God). And I am sure B16 or JP2 have never even heard of it to make any special excommunication decrees on its behalf, something Archbishop Harry Flynn and his predecessor, the late John Roach, should have done years and even decades back.while SSPX is “outside.”![]()
:bigyikes: I think I’am going to be sick.This is Church to be gathered and to be sent. The past few days we’ve gotten another part of what Church is about with the passing of a pope and the election of a new pope. But that institutional part of the Church is only a very small part of Church. Many of us today as Catholics and as Americans feel like we are surrounded by institutional leaders who have a rather small vision, a vision entrenched in the status quo and the dominant culture. But we have to realize that at the same time, we are also surrounded, right here in the Twin Cities, by many who have a much larger vision. I’m talking about many of you, and people that you work with in the trenches on a daily basis – folks working to make the world a better place. People that take the ministry of Jesus into the streets. It’s here that we need to spend our time and energy – and not worry too much about presidents and popes. If we lead, they will follow!
That was a quote from speaker Peter Eichten on
Sunday, April 24th 2005 - what the heck!?!?!?