A Pastors objections to purgatory #2

[jmc66]

Objection #2
1Corinthians3:13-15 This text is talking about the evangelistic efforts of men to convert the lost.In that effort, some who convert will defect from the faith later.These defectors would be characterized as wood,hay, or straw. Their lack of faithfulness proved that their life had not been built well enough on the foundation of Christ. So,the expression in verse 15, "yet as so through fire"is a reference to the one who taught the defector,not a reference to the defector himself. The expression means that if this teacher of the gospel teaches in a weak way that does not strongly stabalize converts, he will be saved,but by the skin of his teeth! It is not saying that he will go suffer in purgatory and then be saved. In fact, there is no reference here at all to anything vaguely representing temporary punishment.

 

[Techno2000]

Objection #2
1Corinthians3:13-15 This text is talking about the evangelistic efforts of men to convert the lost.In that effort, some who convert will defect from the faith later.These defectors would be characterized as wood,hay, or straw. Their lack of faithfulness proved that their life had not been built well enough on the foundation of Christ. So,the expression in verse 15, "yet as so through fire"is a reference to the one who taught the defector,not a reference to the defector himself. The expression means that if this teacher of the gospel teaches in a weak way that does not strongly stabalize converts, he will be saved,but by the skin of his teeth! It is not saying that he will go suffer in purgatory and then be saved. In fact, there is no reference here at all to anything vaguely representing temporary punishment.

“This text is talking about the evangelistic efforts of men to convert the lost” Ask him how he figure this.

 

[jmc66]

I will probably see him in the next few weeks and I am sure this topic will come up. So I am looking for info to share with him.

 

[Techno2000]

Objection #2
1Corinthians3:13-15 This text is talking about the evangelistic efforts of men to convert the lost.In that effort, some who convert will defect from the faith later.These defectors would be characterized as wood,hay, or straw. Their lack of faithfulness proved that their life had not been built well enough on the foundation of Christ. So,the expression in verse 15, "yet as so through fire"is a reference to the one who taught the defector,not a reference to the defector himself. The expression means that if this teacher of the gospel teaches in a weak way that does not strongly stabalize converts, he will be saved,but by the skin of his teeth! It is not saying that he will go suffer in purgatory and then be saved. In fact, there is no reference here at all to anything vaguely representing temporary punishment.

catholicintl.com/epologetics/dialogs/lastthings/rebutal-white-purgatory1.htm

 

[VociMike]

Three things jump out.

First, the passage does talk about God’s fellow workers, and God’s field, so there is a division there. But then in v.10 Paul talks about himself laying the foundation, and “another man” building upon it. So does that mean that Paul is not to be judged, even though he laid the foundation, but that other teachers who follow Paul will be judged? That obviously makes no sense, if “another man” means another teacher rather than the person whom Paul has given the foundation of faith. So strike one against the theory.

Second, in v.13-15 the distionction between God’s fellow workers and God’s field has disappeared. Now the talk is about “each” man and “any” man. That clearly encompasses both God’s fellow workers and God’s field. There are no exceptions here either for God’s fellow workers or for God’s field. Both groups are included. Another strike.

Finally, God does not waste words saying things that have no import. What is the point of saying “if you do well you will be saved, and if you do not do well you will be saved anyway”? That is the crux of the pastor’s interpretation. It is meaningless, useless babble. Strike three, sit down!