A priest is the only one who can excorcise demons from a human body

[holdencaulfield]

I saw a documentary about excorcism and the Protestants were contacting priests to help them excorcise demons from humans. Protestant pastors realize they do not have the power to actually do this. The Catholic priest is the only one. So why then if power was given to our priests as stated in the Bible such authority, why do non-Catholics STILL not believe in the Catholic chuch?

In Rome there is a class at the Vatican that priests take for excorcism now. I love the priests, they are the umbilical cord to God.

Most Protestants are too stubborn to convert and see the Truth.

 

[holdencaulfield]

The pope is never wrong.

The Pope is a sinner just like all of us. However because the Roman Catholic Church is the Church established by Jesus Christ we trust the Holy Spirit to guide the Pope in truth.

 

[Righteousone]

He is talking about instructions within the Catholic Church, not globally. He met with Rev. Bob Larson in Dec. 2005. Here is a link to Rev. Larson’s account of the meeting:

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1578258/posts

Father Amorth shared his anointing with Larson and his wife in this ministry.

Amorth and Larson appeared on an A & E special together.

I’m not a big fan of Larson and his theology, but as long as he is fighting darkness I will support his efforts.

You just can’t see the possibilities of Catholic exorcists and protestant exorcists expelling demons. What are you afraid of?

Peace…

MW

What are you talking about? What are you afraid of is the question…a Protestant does NOT HAVE THE POWER to excorcise demons. Only a Catholic priest can do this whether you believe this or not. I just proved it to you from what Father Amorth has said…what therefore is your problem with it?

 

[Righteousone]

Romans 3:9-10

“What shall we conclude then? Are we any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin As it is written
'There is no one righteous, not even on;
There is no on who understands”

No man on this earth is Righteous, NOBODY is without sin. Although I hold true that the pope is a Great man of God and extraordinarily faithful in his relationship with God, he is absolutely not infallible. He is not all knowing. To suggest that the pope is never wrong not only defies history and the MANY reversed papal decree’s and corruption within the Vatican, it is blasphemy in the highest order. Forgive my harsh tone but it is absolutely offensive to me to suggest that a man, a sinner, is infallible. There is only one who is truly infallible and the is God. People can be wrong and often are. I my self know that I am not always right, but this is the Word of God, not something i just made up. Justify to me, either biblically or otherwise, how the pope is never wrong and Ill consider it carefully. I understand that not all catholic doctrine comes from the bible, but you do hold the bible to be the infallible word of God do you not? if a doctrine is in direct contradiction with the infallible word of God then how can it possibly be justified?

Ill end this by saying that I mean no hostility, hate, malice or resentment. Although I am a Pentecostal, I have the love that Jesus has commanded us to have for all. Catholics, Pentecostals, CRC’s, Baptists, Methodists etc, we are all Christians. We all believe in Jesus Christ and we all accept him as our personal savior. We need to look at this more than what differentiates us. Imagine what kind of damage we can do to the plans of the enemy, what kind of good we can accomplish if we were to set aside the things that divide us and unite together in spiritual warfare? This world would change in a big way.

Peace be with you my brothers and sisters in Christ,

Brendan M
Campus Missionary

like I said, the pope is never wrong.

 

[Syele]

like I said, the pope is never wrong.

The pope can be wrong. Papal Infallibility doesn’t cover everything.

 

[Righteousone]

The pope can be wrong. Papal Infallibility doesn’t cover everything.

THE POPE IS NEVER WRONG

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

What are you talking about? What are you afraid of is the question…a Protestant does NOT HAVE THE POWER to excorcise demons. Only a Catholic priest can do this whether you believe this or not. I just proved it to you from what Father Amorth has said…what therefore is your problem with it?

I’m not afraid of anything, especially demons. I’ve exorcised many of them. You haven’t exorcised any demons as a Catholic. I, as a protestant, have exorcised many. Either you are delusional or I am. Father Amorth explained WITHIN catholicism what the policy should be. And I then shared with you personal testimony from Rev. Bob Larson about his interaction and anointing from Amorth.

Either way I have experienced expelling demons. Whether or not the Catholic Church approves or not is really not important. I will continue to exorcise them till I physically pass away and see Jesus face to face where I will say that I did the best I could.

I’ll leave this thread now.

Peace…

MW

 

[Righteousone]

I’m not afraid of anything, especially demons. I’ve exorcised many of them. You haven’t exorcised any demons as a Catholic. I, as a protestant, have exorcised many. Either you are delusional or I am. Father Amorth explained WITHIN catholicism what the policy should be. And I then shared with you personal testimony from Rev. Bob Larson about his interaction and anointing from Amorth.

Either way I have experienced expelling demons. Whether or not the Catholic Church approves or not is really not important. I will continue to exorcise them till I physically pass away and see Jesus face to face where I will say that I did the best I could.

I’ll leave this thread now.

Peace…

MW

You need to leave the thread to even say that you excorcise demons is a disgrace to Christianity…real weirdo if you ask me.:whacky:

 

[Syele]

THE POPE IS NEVER WRONG

No need to shout. Never is a very very long time and would cover everything. Papal infallibility does not cover everything and forever.
newadvent.org:

As regards matter, only doctrines of faith and morals, and facts so intimately connected with these as to require infallible determination, fall under the scope of infallible ecclesiastical teaching. These doctrines or facts need not necessarily be revealed; it is enough if the revealed deposit cannot be adequately and effectively guarded and explained, unless they are infallibly determined.

 

[Righteousone]

No need to shout. Never is a very very long time and would cover everything. Papal infallibility does not cover everything and forever.

Again like I said, the pope is never wrong…and I will keep saying it until you understand.

 

[Syele]

Again like I said, the pope is never wrong…and I will keep saying it until you understand.

I understand perfectly. the Pope is not God. The Pope can sin. The Pope can get wrong answers in trivia games. Because the Pope can be wrong in these things, he cannot be NEVER WRONG.

 

[lak611]

Again like I said, the pope is never wrong…and I will keep saying it until you understand.

Misconceptions?

Non-Catholics often confuse the pope’s gift of ‘infallibility’ with ‘impeccability’. They think the Catholic Church is claiming her Popes are sinless or that the Pope is claiming inspiration from God for every pronouncement he makes. This is not the case. In fact, infallibility is attached to his office, not his person. It is a protective gift, not a creative one introducing new revelation. Peter Kreeft observes that the Church should not be mistaken for a political body because it is an organic body and no organic body can be a democracy. It must have a head. Christ gave the Church a head.

What is the gift of infallibility?

The dogma of infallibility was formally proclaimed at the First Vatican Council in 1870. There are several requirements for a dogmatic, papal infallible pronouncement: (**1) The pronouncement must be made by the lawful successor to Peter. (2) The subject matter must be in the area of faith and morals. (3) The pope must be speaking ex cathedra, that is from the very seat and office of Peter. In this way he must be specifically intending to proclaim a doctrine, binding the entire Church to its assent. If one or more of these elements is missing, there is no infallible pronouncement.** Most "examples" of papal "errors" emerge when critics ignore the necessity of these three points. (Madrid, pp. 135-136, Pope Fiction)

catholicfaithandreason.org/papal_infallibility.htm

 

[anamchara]

I saw a documentary about excorcism and the Protestants were contacting priests to help them excorcise demons from humans. Protestant pastors realize they do not have the power to actually do this. The Catholic priest is the only one. So why then if power was given to our priests as stated in the Bible such authority, why do non-Catholics STILL not believe in the Catholic chuch?

In Rome there is a class at the Vatican that priests take for excorcism now. I love the priests, they are the umbilical cord to God.

I think I saw this same program. Don’t try and answer the question from a Catholic perspective. Most Protestants do not have the mind set that there needs to be a winner or one better than the other. We are all given gifts, they see the Catholic church as powerful enough to fight demons, that doesn’t mean they think the Catholic church holds all the truths.

 

[anamchara]

THE POPE IS NEVER WRONG

yes he is that’s a silly thing to say.

 

[ralphinal]

“And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in Thy Name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in My Name, that can lightly speak evil of Me. For he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:38-40 KJV)

Note, a man who was not an apostle or one of the 70 sent by Christ was casting out demons.

“Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.” (Acts 19:11-16 KJV)

Note, someone who was not called by Christ did it with bad results.

The Bible says that anyone can do it, it does not say that anyone should try. In my opinion, only a priest who is trained and prepaired should try. Now, a non-Catholic can try to as well, but he better be ready for what may come.

 

[Preacher_Vern]

A Pastor or a Priest can not excorcise demons ony Christ can do that through them and then only if they have the faith to do so.

 

[ralphinal]

A Pastor or a Priest can not excorcise demons ony Christ can do that through them and then only if they have the faith to do so.

Vern, this is a good point and one that I think we all agree with. The question is if anyone can do it in the name of Jesus or does Jesus limit the ability to one denomination?

 

[Preacher_Vern]

Vern, this is a good point and one that I think we all agree with. The question is if anyone can do it in the name of Jesus or does Jesus limit the ability to one denomination?

I beleve anyone can IF they have Christ in there heart and beleve in him as well have the faith to beleve.

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

You need to leave the thread to even say that you excorcise demons is a disgrace to Christianity…real weirdo if you ask me.:whacky:

It’s very rude to say that I’m a weirdo. You can disagree with me without calling names. A disgrace to Christianity if you ask me

MW

 

[Righteousone]

It’s very rude to say that I’m a weirdo. You can disagree with me without calling names. A disgrace to Christianity if you ask me

MW

Well, I myself have been called a Jackass by one here whom I won’t mention, I am not calling you names, honestly, I never heard of a “Christian Mystic”. Is this something you made up? I just think it’s weird that’s all…didn’t say you were weird…
And why would it be a discgrace to Christianity to say something is weird??