A priest is the only one who can excorcise demons from a human body

[Mystic_Warrior]

Well, I myself have been called a Jackass by one here whom I won’t mention, I am not calling you names, honestly, I never heard of a “Christian Mystic”. Is this something you made up? I just think it’s weird that’s all…didn’t say you were weird…
And why would it be a discgrace to Christianity to say something is weird??

You specifically said, “real weirdo” I thought in reference to me. You have never heard of mystics? Like St. John of the Cross, St. Theresa of Avila? St. John wrote, “The Dark Night of the Soul” and other works that are classics. And these mystics were Catholics. Don’t take this the wrong way, but what is your age? I’m wondering if you just haven’t had the opportunity to hear about them or if you just ignored them.

LOL, I didn’t make up the term, Christian Mystic. I wouldn’t give myself that much credit. Mysticism is very old and exists in all religions. There is mystical Christianity, mystical Islam, mystical Buddhism, etc. The foundation of which is to directly experience the divine or truth, regardless of dogma leading you there.

It shouldn’t be too hard to search online for Christian mystics. It’s actually a pretty well-known subject.

MW

 

[Righteousone]

You specifically said, “real weirdo” I thought in reference to me. You have never heard of mystics? Like St. John of the Cross, St. Theresa of Avila? St. John wrote, “The Dark Night of the Soul” and other works that are classics. And these mystics were Catholics. Don’t take this the wrong way, but what is your age? I’m wondering if you just haven’t had the opportunity to hear about them or if you just ignored them.

LOL, I didn’t make up the term, Christian Mystic. I wouldn’t give myself that much credit. Mysticism is very old and exists in all religions. There is mystical Christianity, mystical Islam, mystical Buddhism, etc. The foundation of which is to directly experience the divine or truth, regardless of dogma leading you there.

It shouldn’t be too hard to search online for Christian mystics. It’s actually a pretty well-known subject.

MW

You mean to tell me you have either seen or spoken to Christ because that’s what makes you a mystic, like Anne Catherine Emmerick. She had the gift of seeing the Lord’s Passion in every detail. Her book is phenomonal. If there is other mystics in other religions, it is not the same as mystic defined in the Catholic church.

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

You mean to tell me you have either seen or spoken to Christ because that’s what makes you a mystic, like Anne Catherine Emmerick. She had the gift of seeing the Lord’s Passion in every detail. Her book is phenomonal. If there is other mystics in other religions, it is not the same as mystic defined in the Catholic church.

No, that’s not what a mystic is. It’s about the search and the experience, not about zoning out. But, yes, he has spoken to me. That’s not because I’m special.

Peace…

Mystic

 

[Righteousone]

No, that’s not what a mystic is. It’s about the search and the experience, not about zoning out. But, yes, he has spoken to me. That’s not because I’m special.

Peace…

Mystic

No, a mystic is exactly what I told you. Anne Catherine Emmerick was a mystic. She didn’t exactly “zone out” but had the gift from God.
I too were spoken to by God in 2006, two weeks before Lent and He was very audible. It was very authoritative and powerful. What was your experience?

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

No, a mystic is exactly what I told you. Anne Catherine Emmerick was a mystic. She didn’t exactly “zone out” but had the gift from God.
I too were spoken to by God in 2006, two weeks before Lent and He was very audible. It was very authoritative and powerful. What was your experience?

First, you admit you don’t know what a mystic is and have never heard of a Christian mystic and now you proceed to tell me my interpretation of a mystic is wrong.

I suggest you read this site which answers the question about what a mystic is. Different mystics in the past had different experiences with the Divine. Today people continue to have different experiences. The foundation, though, is that they sought the Divine not through intellectual knowledge, but through experience - a direct knowing, not an intellectual knowing.

It’s the approach toward knowing the Divine that makes one a mystic, not the outcome.

I’ve seen the futility in my life of gaining knowledge through intellectual means of the Divine. For me, the intellectual search left more questions than answers. I couldn’t be happy with that. After experiencing supernatural things that I won’t go in to, I knew that all the knowledge I had gained in years of study could not surpass those direct experiences of divinity and evil.

You asked for my experiences. You don’t believe in my exorcisms so I don’t see any use in telling you of other supernatural happenings. Why would I? Besides, the things I’ve experienced are numerous, complicated and unable to be delivered in this format.

My hope is to write the experiences down in the near future. I’ve started my two blogs that share some of what I’ve experienced. My work with angels has not been written and maybe now I will make the time to do so.

Peace…

MW

 

[Righteousone]

First, you admit you don’t know what a mystic is and have never heard of a Christian mystic and now you proceed to tell me my interpretation of a mystic is wrong.

I suggest you read this site which answers the question about what a mystic is. Different mystics in the past had different experiences with the Divine. Today people continue to have different experiences. The foundation, though, is that they sought the Divine not through intellectual knowledge, but through experience - a direct knowing, not an intellectual knowing.

It’s the approach toward knowing the Divine that makes one a mystic, not the outcome.

I’ve seen the futility in my life of gaining knowledge through intellectual means of the Divine. For me, the intellectual search left more questions than answers. I couldn’t be happy with that. After experiencing supernatural things that I won’t go in to, I knew that all the knowledge I had gained in years of study could not surpass those direct experiences of divinity and evil.

You asked for my experiences. You don’t believe in my exorcisms so I don’t see any use in telling you of other supernatural happenings. Why would I? Besides, the things I’ve experienced are numerous, complicated and unable to be delivered in this format.

My hope is to write the experiences down in the near future. I’ve started my two blogs that share some of what I’ve experienced. My work with angels has not been written and maybe now I will make the time to do so.

Peace…

MW

Checked out the site. Your interpretation of a mystic is not the same as mine. Anne Catherine Emmerick was a mystic. I suggest you read her book.

 

[rtconstant]

I heard about this when I was a Protestant. I know in the case of a particular pastor that he felt that while he believed in exocism that he was just not prepared for dealing with it. So he advised contacting the Arch-diocese. I actually respected this because he took the matter seriously and instead of being proud he decided to defer to someone with more experience.

I think what happens is that for many Protestants exorcism exists on the level of theory. When they see a situation where they think one may be called for they’re not sure about all the factors. They take it serious and they want to do the right thing but they’re not sure where to start. Which is understandable. Protestant denominations and seminaries really don’t train for it and the ones that do give such completely unrealistic scenarios and responces that if any of their number actually runs into a true possession or demon they actually make the situation more dangerous. Exorcism is more than just walking up to someone and saying “In the name of Jesus…” One also has to be mentally prepared. A demon who wants to fight will grip into you mentally in ways unlike anything else.

Pentecostals of course believe that they can do it and some think they are doing it every 5 minuites. I remember hearing a sermon once where a pastor was saying that he had removed a tick from his clothing the day before and that it was sent by the Devil to get him sick. I’ve also seen several Pentecostal exorcisms which were nothing of the sort

Anyone who has actually been in direct conflict with a demon knows that the theatrics and flip attitude that most Pentecostals hold towards exorcism is nothing but delusion.

All that being said, it is true that any believer has the ability to exorcise. Priests are just typically better prepared for it (which one would hope is the case). Second yes I do believe that Protestants can do exorcisms and I’ve had to pleasure of knowing one. He was a missionary to South Africa. He was a very humble and compassionate person. On the whole though I would be leary of sending anyone to a denominational pastor for spiritual warfare. As a rule they either don’t believe in it, are not prepared for it or will simply make it worse.

 

[Righteousone]

I heard about this when I was a Protestant. I know in the case of a particular pastor that he felt that while he believed in exocism that he was just not prepared for dealing with it. So he advised contacting the Arch-diocese. I actually respected this because he took the matter seriously and instead of being proud he decided to defer to someone with more experience.

I think what happens is that for many Protestants exorcism exists on the level of theory. When they see a situation where they think one may be called for they’re not sure about all the factors. They take it serious and they want to do the right thing but they’re not sure where to start. Which is understandable. Protestant denominations and seminaries really don’t train for it and the ones that do give such completely unrealistic scenarios and responces that if any of their number actually runs into a true possession or demon they actually make the situation more dangerous. Exorcism is more than just walking up to someone and saying “In the name of Jesus…” One also has to be mentally prepared. A demon who wants to fight will grip into you mentally in ways unlike anything else.

Pentecostals of course believe that they can do it and some think they are doing it every 5 minuites. I remember hearing a sermon once where a pastor was saying that he had removed a tick from his clothing the day before and that it was sent by the Devil to get him sick. I’ve also seen several Pentecostal exorcisms which were nothing of the sort

Anyone who has actually been in direct conflict with a demon knows that the theatrics and flip attitude that most Pentecostals hold towards exorcism is nothing but delusion.

All that being said, it is true that any believer has the ability to exorcise. Priests are just typically better prepared for it (which one would hope is the case). Second yes I do believe that Protestants can do exorcisms and I’ve had to pleasure of knowing one. He was a missionary to South Africa. He was a very humble and compassionate person. On the whole though I would be leary of sending anyone to a denominational pastor for spiritual warfare. As a rule they either don’t believe in it, are not prepared for it or will simply make it worse.

Yes, but when it comes down to it, if I were posessed by the devil, I’d want a Catholic priest there for sure. They are the only ones with authority to do this, and the skills, and the holiness and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I will simply never believe that anyone else can perform this difficult task. Not only will I never believe it, it simply is not true.

 

[rtconstant]

Yes, but when it comes down to it, if I were posessed by the devil, I’d want a Catholic priest there for sure. They are the only ones with authority to do this, and the skills, and the holiness and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I will simply never believe that anyone else can perform this difficult task. Not only will I never believe it, it simply is not true.

Oh I agree that I’d want a priest to. Experience has shown me that it is possible for others but it certainly isn’t recommended. The priesthood is the normative path.

 

[Righteousone]

Oh I agree that I’d want a priest to. Experience has shown me that it is possible for others but it certainly isn’t recommended. The priesthood is the normative path.

Love the priests, they are the umbilical cord to God.