The whole topic (I don’t mean your comments) is nonsense. Nobody can change their sex. It does not matter how they feel, what they say, what they think, how they dress, what hormones they take or what surgery they have done.Any statistical study I’ve ever seen shows a great prevalence of male-to-female transgenderism over female-to male. Why should that be if it is a matter of people finding their true gender identity. Wouldn’t we expect the numbers to be roughly equal?
ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Prevalence/Reports/Prevalence%20of%20Transsexualism.pdf
Sshhh!!! That’s logic! But logic has no place in this brave new world, governed only by FEELINGS!!!The whole topic (I don’t mean your comments) is nonsense. Nobody can change their sex. It does not matter how they feel, what they say, what they think, how they dress, what hormones they take or what surgery they have done.
Those born a male are male for life. Those born a female are female for life.
Why would we expect the the numbers to be equal?Any statistical study I’ve ever seen shows a great prevalence of male-to-female transgenderism over female-to male. Why should that be if it is a matter of people finding their true gender identity. Wouldn’t we expect the numbers to be roughly equal?
ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Prevalence/Reports/Prevalence%20of%20Transsexualism.pdf
Because in the non-agenda driven world, objective common sense matters.Why would we expect the the numbers to be equal?
“Because I think it should” or “because some people think it should” or “because everyone thinks it should” aren’t any kind of answer at all. I could reach the character limit of a post 3 times over listing times when “because of common sense” has led to incorrect, and indeed horrifying, conclusions.Because in the non-agenda driven world, objective common sense matters.
There’s a couple of potential reasons I could come up with.Any statistical study I’ve ever seen shows a great prevalence of male-to-female transgenderism over female-to male. Why should that be if it is a matter of people finding their true gender identity. Wouldn’t we expect the numbers to be roughly equal?
ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Prevalence/Reports/Prevalence%20of%20Transsexualism.pdf
I don’t know what you mean by common sense in this context. Common sense implies knowledge held by a group. But that type of thinking is often speculative and outright wrong depending on people’s familiarity with the topic.Because in the non-agenda driven world, objective common sense matters.
I think he has a point.Because in the non-agenda driven world, objective common sense matters.
These that the two reason I first thought of too. I agree with the other poster that this isn’t a very strong argument against transgender theory. Many physical, mental, and emotional ailments effect one gender more than the other.There’s a couple of potential reasons I could come up with.
One would be - sex development in the womb is not even, in the sense that it’s not the case that the child starts out following either male or female development patterns. What happens is that the fetus starts out following female development patterns, and then the presence of androgenic hormones changes the development to male. If gender dysphoria is caused by issues with the development of the brain not matching the chromosomal and external sex characteristics, it would be unsurprising that it might not come out evenly.
Another thought is that it’s far, far more acceptable in Western society to be a masculine female than to be a feminine male. So for women with more masculine traits, it’s easier to live in a way that’s acceptable to society, than it is for a feminine man. So the latter may be more likely to seek to transition in search of acceptability.
Because the numbers of born males and females are roughly equal. If there is an objective basis to transgenderism, why would the numbers be so radically different?Why would we expect the the numbers to be equal?
You mean besides the two theories already offered?Because the numbers of born males and females are roughly equal. If there is an objective basis to transgenderism, why would the numbers be so radically different?
The first needs to be developed further. The second provides a societally-based reason, not an objective one.There’s a couple of potential reasons I could come up with.
One would be - sex development in the womb is not even, in the sense that it’s not the case that the child starts out following either male or female development patterns. What happens is that the fetus starts out following female development patterns, and then the presence of androgenic hormones changes the development to male. If gender dysphoria is caused by issues with the development of the brain not matching the chromosomal and external sex characteristics, it would be unsurprising that it might not come out evenly.
Another thought is that it’s far, far more acceptable in Western society to be a masculine female than to be a feminine male. So for women with more masculine traits, it’s easier to live in a way that’s acceptable to society, than it is for a feminine man. So the latter may be more likely to seek to transition in search of acceptability.
Please refer to the question I was answering.You mean besides the two theories already offered?
Well, no. One wouldn’t necessarily expect that. There may be biological factors that make a condition more prevalent in one sex than another. I could hypothesize, but it seems clear upon reflection that the statistics might not be equal.Any statistical study I’ve ever seen shows a great prevalence of male-to-female transgenderism over female-to male. Why should that be if it is a matter of people finding their true gender identity. Wouldn’t we expect the numbers to be roughly equal?
ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Prevalence/Reports/Prevalence%20of%20Transsexualism.pdf
I would never gainsay that it is a cross for them to carry. What motivated my question is that I constantly hear that it is simply a matter of trans people finding their “true” identity.Well, no. One wouldn’t necessarily expect that. There may be biological factors that make a condition more prevalent in one sex than another. I could hypothesize, but it seems clear upon reflection that the statistics might not be equal.
I don’t support many of the goals of the transgender movement, mind, nor its ideology, but I do think gender dysphoria on some level is a legitimate cross some must carry.
I’m currently in professional school for social work. My last class we touched upon transgenderism, or GID, as addressed in the DSM. What you write is too much logic.The whole topic (I don’t mean your comments) is nonsense. Nobody can change their sex. It does not matter how they feel, what they say, what they think, how they dress, what hormones they take or what surgery they have done.
Those born a male are male for life. Those born a female are female for life.
I think I agree that one can change one’s sex but can change their physical appearance through surgery, hormones, and how they dress to match or fit with one’s gender.The whole topic (I don’t mean your comments) is nonsense. Nobody can change their sex. It does not matter how they feel, what they say, what they think, how they dress, what hormones they take or what surgery they have done.
Those born a male are male for life. Those born a female are female for life.