A question about joy, faith, works and vocation

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I’m a convert, ex-evangelical, and still sometimes struggle to get the faith/works distinction in Catholicism. This is having serious repercussions for my understanding of vocation discernment.

Here’s the basic gist of the confusion:

I think (may be wrong) that the basic gist of the Church’s teaching is that our works begin and end in God’s grace, but are nonetheless important in themselves.

For example, I go to Mass every day because God, in His grace, has given me a desire and joy in praising Him in this way. If He hadn’t given me this grace, I wouldn’t be going to Mass. My participation in the Holy Mass itself produces graces, some of which come to me, and some have a wider effect on the Church (in fact, all of them go to Our Lady in my case, since I’ve made the Total Consecration). If I didn’t go to Mass, even though I had received the grace to want to praise God in that way, that grace wouldn’t bear fruit without my works.

However, how does my going to Mass because I (by the grace of God) want to go, differ from someone who never goes to mass because they want to watch football instead? I want to be religious, so I’m religious, he doesn’t want to be, so he isn’t, how can God judge him as less worthy than me?

This is important, because there are lots of good and holy things I want to do. I really want to be a faithful husband and father, I really want to do my work with the Legion of Mary, I really want to use my academic talents in God’s service, I really want to go out and do some teaching at a mission college run by the Salesians in Africa, I really want to help organise pilgrimages and events in my parish, I really want to be a holy Deacon someday, I even want to do the works of fasting and penance that I offer up. Above all, I really want to never sin again, and spend my life in the joyful service of God.

However, all of this comes down to doing stuff that I (by the grace of God) have been given a desire to do. As such, it has no merit accruing to me, all the glory belongs to God, who has given me this grace. Am I actually doing anything to increase and magnify His grace, or am I just ‘coasting’?

There is something good and holy, better than all the things listed above, that I don’t want to do. I don’t want to enter Religious Life. I can see how it is the most perfect response to all the graces God has given, but I don’t want it. There is a side of me that thinks that only by doing this, only by doing the thing that I don’t want to do, will my own life be a life of sacrifice, a life that is objectively more meritorious than the man who never even comes to mass.

Or, to put it another way, all the other things I might do, are worth less than the man who feels no joy in holy things who forces himself to attend Mass once in his lifetime.

No joy=no call, or is sacrifice more important? Or, to put it another way, does God eventually call us to take a leap into earning merit for ourselves, without being preceded by graces of joy from Him? Help me out here.
 
Faith is how we learn to love God with all our heart mind and soul. works are how we learn to love our neighbor as ourselves. The more we Love god the more we love our nieghbor the more we love our neighbor the more we love god. Doing these two things allow us to more fully live in the body of Christ. Look at the cross + we have the vertical which is faith and the horizontal which is works. It can be compared to breathing vertical breathing We take god into us (through prayer/sacraments) and in exhaling on the horizontal level we put that love into action through good works towards our neighbor. or inhaling through works and exhaling on the vertical level through faith “declaring our love” toward god. The universal vocation for all christans is love the more we love the more we have joy the more we have joy the more we have love. the key to all this is to be in motion. God put us into motion (since he is the first mover) and the end result is God. All our actions whether we admit it or not is happiness and God is the source of all true happiness and the only way to achive this happiness is through god which is done by loving god and loving our neighbor as our selves.
 
I’m a convert, ex-evangelical, and still sometimes struggle to get the faith/works distinction in Catholicism. This is having serious repercussions for my understanding of vocation discernment.

Here’s the basic gist of the confusion:

I think (may be wrong) that the basic gist of the Church’s teaching is that our works begin and end in God’s grace, but are nonetheless important in themselves.

For example, I go to Mass every day because God, in His grace, has given me a desire and joy in praising Him in this way. If He hadn’t given me this grace, I wouldn’t be going to Mass. My participation in the Holy Mass itself produces graces, some of which come to me, and some have a wider effect on the Church (in fact, all of them go to Our Lady in my case, since I’ve made the Total Consecration). If I didn’t go to Mass, even though I had received the grace to want to praise God in that way, that grace wouldn’t bear fruit without my works.

However, how does my going to Mass because I (by the grace of God) want to go, differ from someone who never goes to mass because they want to watch football instead? I want to be religious, so I’m religious, he doesn’t want to be, so he isn’t, how can God judge him as less worthy than me?

This is important, because there are lots of good and holy things I want to do. I really want to be a faithful husband and father, I really want to do my work with the Legion of Mary, I really want to use my academic talents in God’s service, I really want to go out and do some teaching at a mission college run by the Salesians in Africa, I really want to help organise pilgrimages and events in my parish, I really want to be a holy Deacon someday, I even want to do the works of fasting and penance that I offer up. Above all, I really want to never sin again, and spend my life in the joyful service of God.

However, all of this comes down to doing stuff that I (by the grace of God) have been given a desire to do. As such, it has no merit accruing to me, all the glory belongs to God, who has given me this grace. Am I actually doing anything to increase and magnify His grace, or am I just ‘coasting’?

There is something good and holy, better than all the things listed above, that I don’t want to do. I don’t want to enter Religious Life. I can see how it is the most perfect response to all the graces God has given, but I don’t want it. There is a side of me that thinks that only by doing this, only by doing the thing that I don’t want to do, will my own life be a life of sacrifice, a life that is objectively more meritorious than the man who never even comes to mass.

Or, to put it another way, all the other things I might do, are worth less than the man who feels no joy in holy things who forces himself to attend Mass once in his lifetime.

No joy=no call, or is sacrifice more important? Or, to put it another way, does God eventually call us to take a leap into earning merit for ourselves, without being preceded by graces of joy from Him? Help me out here.
I am a Cistercian novice and I entered as the result of what I believed was a call from God and have received a number of miraculous signs that this is where He wants me, but I feel no joy. I have a kind of peace, but am not really happy. When I feel down, my prayer is always: Jesus, your will be done; and I am then given some kind of consolation, but not joy as such. I find that when I turn from my vocation and foster thoughts of my past life and of wanting to leave, I become even more desolate and feel that God chastises me.

I am not sure whether I am meant to be here, but I trust Jesus. I was wondering if my will was being purified as my only reason for being here is to do what Jesus wants. I really want to do Jesus’ will and not because I am afraid.

I am not saying I have got it right. I am questioning my position as much as you. I am hoping that I may grow in love of God and will help others with my prayers, but have I got it wrong? My aim is to persevere and keep asking that the Lord’s will be done. I am given the grace to fulfil my duties and I enjoy doing them (might sound strange from what I have said). I seem to be bearing more fruit here than I did in my previous life and get more satisfaction from my work. Maybe it is my ‘unspiritual self’ rebelling.

I must say that returning to my old life with its comforts and the family and friends I left behind is very appealing, but I still prefer doing what the Lord wants rather than what I want.

Brother Nicholas OCSO
 
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