A question about Mary

[Squips]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

Anyway, I recently bought a YOUCAT (a youth Catechism) and have been reading through it slowly but steadily. As I was reading yesterday, I read about the Immaculate Conception, that “the most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God, and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved from the stain of original sin.” Now I’m confused by this a little: is this saying Mary is the savior of the human race, as in co-redemptrix I believe the term was, or is it just describing Jesus as our savior? I ask this because later, it also says by accepting God’s will, Mary “became for us the ‘Gate of Salvation’”. I was just hoping someone could clarify if I’m misunderstanding here. Thanks!

 

[edward_george]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

Anyway, I recently bought a YOUCAT (a youth Catechism) and have been reading through it slowly but steadily. As I was reading yesterday, I read about the Immaculate Conception, that “the most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God, and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved from the stain of original sin.” Now I’m confused by this a little: is this saying Mary is the savior of the human race, as in co-redemptrix I believe the term was, or is it just describing Jesus as our savior? I ask this because later, it also says by accepting God’s will, Mary “became for us the ‘Gate of Salvation’”. I was just hoping someone could clarify if I’m misunderstanding here. Thanks!

“Savior of the Human Race” modifies Jesus; in English, a modifier modifies that to which it is closest in the sentence most of the time (one of the great weaknesses of English, if you ask me; it causes ambiguities such as these–more inflected languages like Latin don’t have this issue…).

Mary might be called “co-redemptrix” in the sense that her cooperation with the will of God in accepting his call to be the bearer of his Son who would save mankind helped to bring about that salvation. In English, “co-” usually implies equality, whereas in Latin it doesn’t necessarily. Her share in salvation history was not equal to or the same as that of Jesus, obviously, as Mary herself could not have saved mankind, this being something only God could do. But she becomes “Gate of Salvation” because it was through her that salvation came into the world.

-Fr ACEGC

 

[1ke]

is this saying Mary is the savior of the human race

No.

as in co-redemptrix I believe the term was

Correct, co-redemptrix does not mean Mary is the savior of anyone.

or is it just describing Jesus as our savior?

Yes, Jesus is our savior.

I ask this because later, it also says by accepting God’s will, Mary “became for us the ‘Gate of Salvation’”. I was just hoping someone could clarify if I’m misunderstanding here. Thanks!

Yes, the gate to our salvation. Her “yes” enabled the Incarnation of Jesus. Jesus is our salvation.

 

[Monica4316]

That phrase of Saviour refers to Jesus, but Mary brought Him to us, so she has been called the Gate of Salvation. Like a gate to Jesus through which He comes to save us. Hope that helps

 

[Monica4316]

“Co-Redemprix” means that Our Lady participated in Jesus’ work but He is still the Saviour. In Latin, “co” means something like “with”

 

[Magdalen2013]

Also the “Gate of Salvation” is a reference to childbirth –

Jesus came ‘through’ Mary – if you look at many of the hymns about Mary, you’ll find many references to this using the terms gate and portal, among others.

 

[steve_b]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

Anyway, I recently bought a YOUCAT (a youth Catechism) and have been reading through it slowly but steadily. As I was reading yesterday, I read about the Immaculate Conception,

It’s interesting, many think that the IC pertains to Jesus and NOT Mary.
S:

that "the most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God, and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved from the stain of original sin." Now I’m confused by this a little: is this saying Mary is the savior of the human race,

“savior of the human race”, pertains to Jesus
S:

as in co-redemptrix

“co” comes from the Latin “cum” which means with.What is doesn’t mean " equal to", nor "in place of,"

co-redemtrix then = with the redeemer. And that’s how God set it up.

Salvation came from Jesus through Mary
Redemption came from Jesus through Mary
The mediator between God and man came from Jesus** through** Mary

making Mary a part of that.

because the body of Christ is also the Church, Colossians 1:24 , Mary being mother of God in the flesh, also makes Mary mother of the Church.
S:

by accepting God’s will, Mary “became for us the ‘Gate of Salvation’”.

True

 

[SnoopSword]

I believe the Church doesnt make their ‘reasonings’ public or easy to obtain by reason of discerment as most people would scoff at the ‘real’ reasoning.

I believe Mary is certainly co-redemtrix and gate of salvation by way of being ‘born again’ (from above) through Mary’s womb via baptism - born of water and Spirit and becoming a ‘new’ race, God’s very own chosen, by being a child of Mary, thus making Jesus our eldest brother as the head (Pope on earth)’ and our Father becomes… wel… ‘Our Father who art in heaven…’ and if we are the Fathers children in good standing, then we hope to recieve a share of His inheritence. The Spirit comes into us metaphysically through the gate/doors of Mary, but to find this, requires finding the literal gate/door of the Catholic Church.

Note: By their own rules, a Jewish convert is never classified as fully Jewish. They MUST be born of Jewish water literally. Religion has nothing to do with it. It’s about being born into a succession of their own water that produces their desired flesh. Nothing else matters to them. Likewise we should also recognize we are born of a COMPLETELY SEPARATE water which gives us spirit and alters our soul and thus makes us a new ‘race’ as the Chatechism says. The two family TREES by reason of water are 100% different and share NOTHING in common WHATSOEVER. So people should make sure they eat from the tree that came through CORRECT gateway into our world because those born “through the Matrix” (kjv) and belong to a “Lord named Jealous” (kjv translation) and they WILL do whatever it takes to threaten your salvation. Why? Because of Gen 3 - “the offspring of the Woman (Mary) will be at emnity with the Offspring of the Serpent”. This is EVIDENCE that yes, Mary is indeed the co-redemptrix.