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We all know One must have a “good” personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and place Him above all else, with “faith and good works”…in order to be saved.

However some would like to omit the “Good Works” to do their dirty deeds and still say they are saved by faith alone…but that is another Thread:thumbsup:

Question For Catholics and Protestants Where is your personal relationship with His Mother Mary?

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Ufam Tobie
 
ufamtobie said:
We all know One must have a “good” personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and place Him above all else, with “faith and good works”…in order to be saved.

However some would like to omit the “Good Works” to do their dirty deeds and still say they are saved by faith alone…but that is another Thread:thumbsup:

Question For Catholics and Protestants Where is your personal relationship with His Mother Mary?

Thanks

Ufam Tobie
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My relationship with Mary is not as close as I would like it to be. I pray the Hail Mary at least every day, but often I’m just praying by rote. I’d like to get to the point where I can actually say the words in a meaningful way to her, rather than just recite them. Sometimes I’m close - and that feels really good.

I also love to sing hymns to her on her feast days. 🙂

I look to her as a role model, and I try to remember to ask for her prayers, but a lot of the time I just forget. 😊
 
As a Protestant, I’d say I don’t really have any relationship with Mary. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t feel that this fact detracts from my relationship with God, but I don’t pray to Mary or anything like that. I think she was blessed by the Lord in being able to carry His son, but that’s about the extent to which I think about her.

I would say that my relationship with the Lord is pretty good, though never as good as I wish it could be. I pray often and strive to flee from sin. But yeah, I don’t have a relationship with Mary, but I do with the Lord.

Also, saving faith is reflected in good works. If there are no works, then it’s likely that the faith isn’t there either.
 
ConsciousCoward said:
As a Protestant, I’d say I don’t really have any relationship with Mary. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t feel that this fact detracts from my relationship with God, but I don’t pray to Mary or anything like that. I think she was blessed by the Lord in being able to carry His son, but that’s about the extent to which I think about her.

I would say that my relationship with the Lord is pretty good, though never as good as I wish it could be. I pray often and strive to flee from sin. But yeah, I don’t have a relationship with Mary, but I do with the Lord.

Also, saving faith is reflected in good works. If there are no works, then it’s likely that the faith isn’t there either.
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Conscious,

Thank you for your honest answer. I know one does not need to have a personal relationship with your friends mother to be be a good friend.

Meditate on this: This is not a Friends Mother, it is the Mother of Jesus Christ… Jesus Christ had a good relationship with Her, don’t you think? Then why don’t you do Like wise?

Above you say: “I think she was blessed by the Lord”, did not Virgin Mary filled with the Holy Ghost say: “All Generations Shall Call me Blessed”. There is no room for ''I Think" here.

Virgin Mary suffered a sword for us, It say so in Luke 2: 35

Ufam Tobie
 
Everything I touch becomes soiled by sin. Everything Mary touches becomes unto like gold.
 
God willing, I will consecrate myself to Mary this upcoming Dec 8 as her slave according to the teaching of St. Louis de Montfort.

totalconsecration.ageofmary.com/

I’ve prayed to Jesus for a deeper understanding of why I should have a relationship with his Holy Mother, and have asked that he grant to me that relationship. I have prayed that Jesus reveal his Blessed Mother to me, that he introduce her to me, and that he show me how to love her. I really did pray that, several times, late at night, in the adoration chapel in the presence of Jesus enthroned in the monstrance.

God then sent a franciscan priest into my life briefly, who mentioned Total Consecration to the Virgin Mary and the work of St. Louis de Montfort. 😃 Just last week I found a copy of “Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary” in the adoration chapel - I had no idea that this liturgy existed and so have ordered a copy.

And so ask I have asked, God has granted, and I can do nothing but follow. I’ll continue as far as God desires me to go, until he bars my path and stops me.

-Tim-
 
I try to have a good relationship with my Mother in Heaven. I feel like a bad son sometimes by not keeping in touch with her. I think that the example of the saints really helps me in this situation - we honor Christ greatly when we honor His Mother.
 
ufamtobie said:
Conscious,

Thank you for your honest answer. I know one does not need to have a personal relationship with your friends mother to be be a good friend.

Meditate on this: This is not a Friends Mother, it is the Mother of Jesus Christ… Jesus Christ had a good relationship with Her, don’t you think? Then why don’t you do Like wise?

Above you say: “I think she was blessed by the Lord”, did not Virgin Mary filled with the Holy Ghost say: “All Generations Shall Call me Blessed”. There is no room for ''I Think" here.

Virgin Mary suffered a sword for us, It say so in Luke 2: 35

Ufam Tobie
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Ufam,

Just so we are all clear, was your purpose in this thread to inquire about our relationship with Mary, or pursuade us to have one?
 
We should be like Mary, humble and open to the Lord. We should resemble Christ as He showed us to be. Too many try to resemble Christ in His Authority where they have none. Admonish the sinner as a brother, out of love. It is only out of His giving His authority that one can admonish a sinner as an enemy. It should be “What Would Mary Do?”.
 
Hello friends.

We have to remember that the salvation Christ won for the human race came to us through the generous self-giving of Mary. Mary’s role in our salvation was not (and is not) passive or insignificant – without Mary’s “yes”, the Son of God couldn’t have become man! God let His entire plan of salvation hinge on Mary’s willingness to be the mother of Jesus. Surely she deserves the highest honor of any human person (Christ’s Person being divine).

I can’t imagine there being a better way to come to Christ than through His mother. Mary + the Holy Spirit = Jesus Christ!

O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. Amen.
 
I have done the Total Consecration and I am trying to live it out better 🙂 we can’t ever fully understand or appreciate the role that Mary has in our relationship with God.
 
Rahn said:
Ufam,

Just so we are all clear, was your purpose in this thread to inquire about our relationship with Mary, or pursuade us to have one?
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Hi Rahn,

the answer to your question above is, both. Amen

Ufam Tobie
 
B79 said:
Hello friends.

We have to remember that the salvation Christ won for the human race came to us through the generous self-giving of Mary. Mary’s role in our salvation was not (and is not) passive or insignificant – without Mary’s “yes”, the Son of God couldn’t have become man! God let His entire plan of salvation hinge on Mary’s willingness to be the mother of Jesus. Surely she deserves the highest honor of any human person (Christ’s Person being divine).

I can’t imagine there being a better way to come to Christ than through His mother. Mary + the Holy Spirit = Jesus Christ!

O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee. Amen.
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B79,

Awesome!!! 👍👍👍

Ufam Tobie
 
Monica4316 said:
I have done the Total Consecration and I am trying to live it out better 🙂 we can’t ever fully understand or appreciate the role that Mary has in our relationship with God.
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Monica,

That is Beautiful,

Thanks

Ufam Tobie
 
A simple prayer came to mind–

May the Blessed Mother come into your life today
with a special blessing for you.
May you always be grateful for the Blessed Mother.
Without her, we would not have Jesus. Our Savior.

I am very grateful- and I have a great reverance for her.❤️
 
ufamtobie said:
We all know One must have a “good” personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and place Him above all else, with “faith and good works”…in order to be saved.
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Actually, my good works don’t save me. God saves me.
However some would like to omit the “Good Works” to do their dirty deeds and still say they are saved by faith alone…but that is another Thread:thumbsup:
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You’re wrong about this, but you’re right in saying it is another thread. You are wrong, though. Nothing personal, but you are.
Question For Catholics and Protestants Where is your personal relationship with His Mother Mary?
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I have a personal relationship with God based on the fact that God (the Holy Spirit) indwells me. Through the Trinitarian union of the Holy Spirit to the other persons of the Godhead, I also have a personal relationship with the Father and the Son, although the Holy Spirit is the only one that actually indwells me.

I don’t have that sort of personal relationship with Mary because she doesn’t indwell me, nor is she a part of the Godhead. Please don’t look past these statements; if you do, I will repeat them until you look.
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Ufam Tobie
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You’re very welcome, thanks for asking.
 
Hello cooterhein.

Indeed our salvation comes from God – no one truly ‘earns’ salvation, through good works or anything else, for it is “by grace alone.” Nonetheless, salvation is NOT by faith alone. How could it be? – that notion didn’t even exist until the 16th century. The Bible tells us repeatedly the necessity of good works for salvation. Look at our Lord’s words in Matthew chapter 25-- to those who had fed the hungry and clothed the naked, He says “Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world”; to those who had failed in these WORKS of mercy, He says “Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” This particular passage makes NO mention of faith being lacking in those who were to be condemned. I could cite many more examples from the Bible proving the necessity of works for salvation.

In response to another part of your post… Would you say that you have a personal relationship with your mother? I would think so. So why not the Mother of our Savior? Catholics don’t claim that it’s the same as one’s relationship with the Trinity (Who dwells within us, as you said). But clearly Mary is worthy of a personal relationship. And it no more detracts from your relationship with God than does your relationship with your family here on earth.

God bless.
 
I could not know Jesus without knowing the Mother who made the Incarnation possible. The years I spent as a Protestant, agnostic, atheist were wasted because I did not know HIM or HIS MOTHER. As a Protestant, I did not consider Mary worth knowing. As an agnostic or atheist, I didn’t believe Mary even existed. Either way, there was not much difference in my attitude. But now, I love, love, love her!

No Mary, No Jesus; know Mary, know Jesus. The more I know of Mary, the more I know of Jesus. She carried him in her womb for nine months, nursed him at her breasts, changed his diapers, kissed his sweet lips, offered him to God, searched for him and found him in the temple, walked the Via Dolorosa with him, stood at the foot of the Cross, received his dead body into her arms when at last the Crucifixion was over, awaited the Spirit in the Upper Room with the Apostles, loved him – the God-Man – more intimately than any other human being.

O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.

Jim Dandy
Ex-Southern Baptist, ex-agnostic, ex-atheist, ecstatic to be Catholic!
 
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