A question - not meant to inflame.

[RPConover]

Actually, your adding onto the Bible and making it say what it doesn’t say. Where I go to, we’re from the Bible and do not go against it nor do we add on to it.
If your “traditions” do not line up with the Word, it’s adding. You cannot authenticate your “traditions” but if they do not line up with the Word, it is false.
One “heretical doctrine” that comes to mind is Isis, who looks alot like your “mother”. Isis existed first.

IF the catholic church is Christ’s Church, then just as Israel sinned against God, there was plagues and death. Only this time, it’s eternal.
Repent. Go find a congregation, not necessarily a religion or denomination, that preaches the Gospel from the Word and not just some words from a guy from the 2nd century who cannot be refuted because he is no longer around to defend his words.

haha, you sorts and your “congregations” can’t even agree on what the Gospel says! By the way, Christ is the “Word”, we teach what the Apostles taught, we rather trust their witness! We might tell you, a heretic, to repent and go find a real church, The Church… “One holy, catholic and apostolic Church”. I dare say that your pride is not a vitrue. Christ is both our Saviour and our Judge; he is yours as well.

Lord have mercy! :crying:

 

[jmcrae]

One “heretical doctrine” that comes to mind is Isis, who looks alot like your “mother”. Isis existed first.

And her son Osirus died for sins and rose again from the dead - does that mean that Jesus didn’t exist, too?

I have a different interpretation - I think the story of Isis and Osirus was given to the pagans as a prophecy about Mother Mary and Jesus. (That’s just my personal opinion. I don’t know whether the Church has anything to say about Isis and Osirus. )

 

[Kevan]

Kevan, is the Catholic Church Christian?

You have to ask a Fundamentalist that? What kind of apologist are you, anyway?

Click here. They can help you.

 

[Kevan]

Why are you simply assuming that all Catholics lack devotion to Christ? This is very insulting.

Y’know, jmcrae, I’d try to explain it to you, but you convinced me earlier that I’m not capable, and this question drives the fact home all the more. Kaycee has switched sides and now claims to be my defender. Randy, apparently feeling guilty for twisting my words, doesn’t even know any longer if his church is Christian. Kujo seems to be channeling Ruckman and Isis is down for the count. Nobody has a burden for winning souls south of the Rio Grande. And everybody, including me, has lost interest in discussing whether or not polydenominationalism has resulted in more or fewer salvations.

I saw a scene like this in a Marx Brothers movie once, but I forget which one it was.

I’m leaving. Make a couple more accusations against me and call it a thread.

 

[kujo313]

Just as long as it’s anything but Catholic, right?

(The Catholic Church reads from the Gospels along with the rest of the Scriptures every day of the week. So far, I haven’t seen any Protestant churches that do that.)

Exactly WHAT Protestant churches have you been to and where?
Also, do you have a list of those 33000 different denominations of Protestants? I keep hearing that number with nobody giving a list.

Does the Catholic Church read the Romans Road? How about reading about being born again? Jesus being the Cornerstone? How about Jesus saying that NOBODY goes to the Father but by Him? (contradicting Maryology).

 

[Kay_Cee]

Kaycee has switched sides and now claims to be my defender.

I have **not **switched sides! I merely pointed out how what you said could be interpreted different ways, not that I agreed with you!

I also thought I might get an apology from you for attacking me, but oh well.

Randy, apparently feeling guilty for twisting my words, doesn’t even know any longer if his church is Christian.

I’m amazed at your ability at twisting words. That’s not what he said at all. Show me where Randy said he doesn’t even know any longer if his church is Christian. Show me!!!

Randy was asking if **you **consider Catholics Christians. But, once again, when asked a direct yes/no question, you refuse to answer.

 

[Kay_Cee]

Kujo:

You were back on line, so why didn’t you answer Randy’s question in post 139?

I would really like to know your answer to it.

 

[jmcrae]

Exactly WHAT Protestant churches have you been to and where?

In my neighborhood we have:

Baptist - Sunday School on Sunday morning, Praise and Worship after Sunday School for an hour and a half, and a teen-oriented Praise Band thing in the evening (7:00 pm). No services of worship during the week. Bible Studies, segregated into Men’s, Women’s, Singles, Young People’s and Married Couples’ during the week (one meeting during the week for each group), but that’s it - no services of worship during the week.

Plymouth Brethren - Sunday morning Breaking of Bread (9:00 - 9:30 am), Sunday School (9:45 - 10:30 am) Fellowship Hour (10:30-11:30):, and Bible Exposition (1:00 pm - 4:00 pm) - house church groups during the week (once a week, 2 hours of praise and Scripture explorations, for each house group.)

United Church of Canada - Sunday Service, 11:00 am to 12:00 noon followed by a Fellowship Hour, one Bible study during the week, “all welcome,” but no services of worship during the week.

Anglican - Service of Holy Communion, 8:00 am,morning, Service of Word, 10:00 am, on Sundays. Various mid-week groups, including one Bible study, but no services of worship during the week.

Jehovah’s Witnesses - I’ve never actually gone in, but the schedule on the door lists for Sunday morning, Public Talk - 9:00 am, Watchtower Study - 10:00 am. and for Thursdays, 6:00 pm, Theocratic Ministry School (I’m guessing this would be their convert training classes) followed by something called a "Service Meeting at 7:00 pm. I don’t know whether JWs have services of Holy Communion, and it’s not clear exactly what they study during their services of the Word.

We also have a New Apostolic Church that meets on Sunday mornings and Wednesday evenings for praise and worship, and there is a new “non-denominational” church that has taken over the old synagogue - they haven’t put up their schedule, yet, and I’ve never been there - they just got going quite recently. I rather doubt that they are having services of worship every day, though.

By contrast, at my parish church, we have Sunday Mass at 5:00 pm on Saturday, 8:00 am, 10:00 am, 12:00 noon and 5:00 pm on Sundays. On weekdays from Monday to Friday we have Mass at noon, and on Saturday we do the daily Mass at 8:30 am. In addition, we have Bible study on Tuesday evenings and Thursday afternoons, we have Liturgy of the Hours on Saturday mornings, and we have RCIA Inquiry for adults on Wednesday evenings, RCIA Catechesis on Sunday mornings, and children’s Sacramental Preparation on Thursday evenings. We also partner with an elementary school, where our priests say a school Mass once a month, and teach children’s Catechism classes every day during the week.

Also, do you have a list of those 33000 different denominations of Protestants? I keep hearing that number with nobody giving a list.

I don’t have that list, sorry. My sense of it is that the number of Protestant denominations is probably in the hundreds; I certainly don’t think it’s as high as 33,000.

Does the Catholic Church read the Romans Road?

I hear about this from the Baptists, but it’s not actually in the Bible, and I’ve never seen it used anywhere else than in the Baptist church.

How about reading about being born again?

We talk about that in relationship with Baptism.

Jesus being the Cornerstone? How about Jesus saying that NOBODY goes to the Father but by Him?.

We talk about that all the time.

(contradicting Maryology)

I don’t think you really know what we believe about Mary. We certainly don’t think that she is a substitute for Christ. :nope: But she is definitely our biggest hero of the faith.

 

[jmcrae]

Y’know, jmcrae, I’d try to explain it to you, but you convinced me earlier that I’m not capable, and this question drives the fact home all the more.

Kaycee has switched sides and now claims to be my defender.

Kay Cee is probably just trying to see things from your point of view and get a handle on where you are coming from.

Randy, apparently feeling guilty for twisting my words, doesn’t even know any longer if his church is Christian.

No - he already knows that the Catholic Church is the original that was founded by Jesus Christ. He’s asking your opinion because he wants to know what he is dealing with. What do you believe about the Catholic Church? How is it that two years of intensive study of the teachings of Catholic Church has no power to instruct someone in the Christian faith, or effect a conversion?

Kujo seems to be channeling Ruckman and Isis is down for the count.

Newsflash - Kujo is on your team.

Nobody has a burden for winning souls south of the Rio Grande.

They already have churches - do we need to send missionaries into places that already have Christianity well-entrenched into the culture? What I think is that we need to bring those guys here to North America and also to Europe, as missionaries, to re-evangelize the developed world.

 

[Rachel_Malloy]

This thread is now closed. Thank you to all who participated.

God bless-

Rachel