A question on beads used to count the Jesus Prayer

[futureKC123]

+JMJ

What are ya’lls thoughts on me using buddhist prayer beads like a chotki because I can’t afford a prayer rope?
Thanks for your help!
ICXC+NIKA
FKC

 

[ConstantineTG]

Why not? I heard stones and seeds were used in the early days.

 

[graceandglory]

+JMJ

What are ya’lls thoughts on me using buddhist prayer beads like a chotki because I can’t afford a prayer rope?
Thanks for your help!
ICXC+NIKA
FKC

Can you get it blessed?
I use the old fashioned pagan evergreen tree for a Christmas tree. Maybe it’s the same thing.

 

[beafedor]

If you are talking about the prayer I’m thinking about that is supposed to be said 100 times, I made my own bracelet out of cheap wooden beads and elastic thread and I added a Sacred Heart medal. There are only 20 beads and I pray it 5 times in a row.

 

[TeenageConvert]

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it.

I used a rosary when I did it once, just skipped the our father beads and said the Jesus prayer on the hail mary’s and did it twice.

 

[Patchunky]

If you are talking about the prayer I’m thinking about that is supposed to be said 100 times, I made my own bracelet out of cheap wooden beads and elastic thread and I added a Sacred Heart medal. There are only 20 beads and I pray it 5 times in a row.

I’ve seen chotki in 10 knot, 33 knot, 50 knot and 100 knot ropes.

There is also a DVD on how to make your own chotki.

You may want to check out this video clip. It’s might help…

wattfamily.org/prayerope.html

Hope this helps…

 

[Ignatius]

The only concern I would have is that it might cause scandal of someone were to think that Catholics pray as Buddhists. This could falsely imply that we accept their beliefs.
I would hold off until you check with your spiritual director. What does your spiritual director say?

 

[ConstantineTG]

Is chotki.com a good place to buy a chotki?

 

[5Loaves]

Is chotki.com a good place to buy a chotki?

The tassels on those don’t look like wool to me, if you want merino wool which they say these are.

My favorite I got from the nuns at the Holy Myrrhbearers Monastery.which they make with wool from their own sheep, in natural brown or natural gray. Mine has gone through the washer and dryer, by mistake, and come out great. I may wash it on purpose again one of these days… it’s seen a lot of miles.

Member Phillip Rolfes makes them, too, and he gets rave reviews for them.

 

[ConstantineTG]

I haven’t seen Philip in a while, I was meaning to ask him.

I’m getting one soon. Thanks 5loaves for the link!

 

[5Loaves]

I haven’t seen Philip in a while, I was meaning to ask him.

I’m getting one soon. Thanks 5loaves for the link!

You’re right… I’m not on here enough so I can’t keep up with who is here and not here, and most of the fast moving threads pass me by… Why don’t you PM him?

 

[Phillip_Rolfes]

Hello Constantine and 5Loaves!!! You’re both right, I haven’t been on in a very long time. I have had limited internet access at best, and I’ve been rather busy lately too. My niece was baptized up in Albany, New York, over the weekend and my wife, daughter and I made the trip up to celebrate the event and see my family. It was good. Constantine, if you’re interested in a prayer rope I currently have a surplus. I’ve been making them and stocking up on them since I have the material but no current customers. I have both the Greek and Russian style ropes. Send me an e-mail if you’re interested.

5Loaves, I’ll be getting yours out to you as soon as I have some extra money for shipping. Things have been rather tight lately.

 

[futureKC123]

+JMJ
So I was curious, since a buddhist mala has 108 beads and my rule of prayer has 100 Jesus Prayers in it what should I do with the extra 8? I’ve tried to find malas with 100 beads but to no avail.
Thanks,
FKC :byzsoc:

 

[Alexander_Roman]

Just say the 108 Jesus Prayers and count it as a “hundredth.”

The Asian tradition also has sets of strings with moveable beads to keep count of the hundreds - Orthodox monastics have their own which they call “martyria.”

Alex

 

[perro_sarnoso]

+JMJ

What are ya’lls thoughts on me using buddhist prayer beads like a chotki because I can’t afford a prayer rope?
Thanks for your help!
ICXC+NIKA
FKC

Whatever floats your boat…

However, the Immaculate, perpetual virgin mother of God appeared to St. Dominic on or about 1247 and revealed to St . Dominic the format which we use nowadays.

I personally would not deviate from this. Especially if the Theotokos revealed it to us in this format.

 

[Alexander_Roman]

Whatever floats your boat…

However, the Immaculate, perpetual virgin mother of God appeared to St. Dominic on or about 1247 and revealed to St . Dominic the format which we use nowadays.

I personally would not deviate from this. Especially if the Theotokos revealed it to us in this format.

But we’re talking about the Jesus Prayer and the tradition from before the time of St Basil the Great to pray on woollen prayer ropes . . .

And, in the East, the Mother of God revealed her rosary to a monk of the Thebaid in the 8th century . . .

Alex

 

[Phillip_Rolfes]

But we’re talking about the Jesus Prayer and the tradition from before the time of St Basil the Great to pray on woollen prayer ropes . . .

And, in the East, the Mother of God revealed her rosary to a monk of the Thebaid in the 8th century . . .

Alex

I would only add that it is widely acknowledged even among the Dominicans themselves that the story of St. Dominic and the Rosary is little more than pious legend. True he popularized the devotion in the West and may have been commissioned by the Theotokos to do so, but he did not receive the Rosary in its current form from the hands of Our Lady, as the story goes. I believe even the Catholic Encyclopedia debunks the myth.

 

[Alexander_Roman]

I would only add that it is widely acknowledged even among the Dominicans themselves that the story of St. Dominic and the Rosary is little more than pious legend. True he popularized the devotion in the West and may have been commissioned by the Theotokos to do so, but he did not receive the Rosary in its current form from the hands of Our Lady, as the story goes. I believe even the Catholic Encyclopedia debunks the myth.

Yes sir - absolutely!

And praying on beads does predate the Dominicans by a few centuries too!

I salute you, Master Beadsman!

Alex