A question to Non-Catholics about Eucharistic Miracles

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I’m Catholic, so am not your intended audience. But I think the Eucharistic miracles are fascinating and great proof of God’s reality.
The few people I have mentioned them to don’t want to consider them. They don’t want to hear about anything like that, or the figures seen in the Virgin of Guadalupe’s eyes. Don’t want to be confused with the facts, since their minds are made up.
I think only the Holy Spirit can convince us of the truth.

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Very true. Im interested to hear what some may have to say. Hoping to get some (name removed by moderator)ut, of any kind.
 
HungerNThirst4R said:
This geared toward any non-Catholics, especially Protestants but all are welcome to join the conversation. How do you feel about Eucharistic Miracles? What do you think about them and the scientific evidence behind them? Have you ever even heard of them?
Please read this article if you need a better understanding of what I’m talking about.
newmindjournal.com/2016/05/26/eucharistic-miracles-can-science-prove-faith/

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Excellent article. Thanks for the link.

Some of my favorite parts were:
The Blood was type AB positive and contained proteins only found fresh blood.
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Which is the only blood type that is compatible (can accept) all others. 👍
The heart muscle is in an inflammatory condition and contains a large number of white blood cells. It is my contention that the heart was alive, since white blood cells die outside a living organism
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Wow
What is more, these white blood cells had penetrated the tissue, which further indicates that the heart had been under severe stress, as if the owner had been beaten severely about the chest,” testified Dr. Frederick Zugibe, cardiologist and forensic pathologist from University of Columbia in New York.
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The Lord works in mysterious ways.
 
HungerNThirst4R said:
This geared toward any non-Catholics, especially Protestants but all are welcome to join the conversation. How do you feel about Eucharistic Miracles? What do you think about them and the scientific evidence behind them? Have you ever even heard of them?
Please read this article if you need a better understanding of what I’m talking about.
newmindjournal.com/2016/05/26/eucharistic-miracles-can-science-prove-faith/

Thanks.
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I had heard the term, Eucharistic Miracles before but didn’t know the details. Thanks for sharing the article. I find no reason to disbelieve it and think it is awesome.
 
Thank you for posting this. 🙂

I shared it on Facebook and am hoping that my many Evangelical friends might ponder it.
 
HungerNThirst4R said:
This geared toward any non-Catholics, especially Protestants but all are welcome to join the conversation. How do you feel about Eucharistic Miracles? What do you think about them and the scientific evidence behind them? Have you ever even heard of them?
Please read this article if you need a better understanding of what I’m talking about.
newmindjournal.com/2016/05/26/eucharistic-miracles-can-science-prove-faith/

Thanks.
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The Lord moves in mysterious ways. If God authentically wants to give physical proof of Jesus’ living existence to an unbelieving world what better way is there of doing it than having it appear on a communion wafer which is a symbol of Christ’s body for some and which is a spiritual reality for others?
 
Although I usually try to keep on track while teaching RCIA, Eucharistic Miracles, Incorruptibles and Our Lady of Guadalupe always livens up the group a lot!
Most of them had never heard of these things. And I believe that when investigated (and believe me, as soon as they get home, they start Googling) it helps to increase their faith.

I always state that although these amazing things are miraculous, there’s a miracle waiting for them at every Mass. Jesus, and their own faith journey will be full of discovery, miracles, trials and more than a few wars.
 
Hello hunger and thirst,
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 I'm perfectly willing to believe that miracles happen to people regardless of their faith system.  I don't think they happen for the purpose of promoting one belief system over another or to indicate and any particular individuals in that faith system have any super powers that others don't have.
The agenda of the article was:
article>>>And thus today there are over 40,000 Protestant denominations who also do not believe that the bread and wine truly becomes the Flesh and Blood of Christ, but instead only a mere symbol of it.<<<
When a Catholic (or Orthodox for that matter but the theology differs only very slightly) priest says the words of consecration over the bread and wine it is believed that transubstantiation occurs, that the bread and wine become true Flesh and Blood.<<<
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The apparent agenda of the “miracles” chosen was to show that miracles prove that the Catholic church and its priests are somehow special. I don’t see what good the miracles did for anyone. I don’t care if they really happened or not.
 
superwimp said:
The agenda of the article was:
article>>>And thus today there are over 40,000 Protestant denominations who also do not believe that the bread and wine truly becomes the Flesh and Blood of Christ, but instead only a mere symbol of it.<<<
When a Catholic (or Orthodox for that matter but the theology differs only very slightly) priest says the words of consecration over the bread and wine it is believed that transubstantiation occurs, that the bread and wine become true Flesh and Blood.<<<
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I read the piece as a bit of a fluff piece that gives a few numbers but no footnotes nor scientific data. I would have no problem dismissing it entirely. Perhaps if I were a Roman Catholic, it might be reassuring, but overall, would it speak to anyone outside your denomination? I would pretty much doubt it.

For those of us who believe in the presence of Christ, the Eucharist a wonderful mystery. For those who don’t, I doubt these words are going to make any difference.

Sorry.
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HungerNThirst4R said:
This geared toward any non-Catholics, especially Protestants but all are welcome to join the conversation. How do you feel about Eucharistic Miracles? What do you think about them and the scientific evidence behind them? Have you ever even heard of them?
Please read this article if you need a better understanding of what I’m talking about.
newmindjournal.com/2016/05/26/eucharistic-miracles-can-science-prove-faith/

Thanks.
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To me as a Baha’i I respect your traditions. For me however the true miracle is that Jesus was able to transform the character of man.

In the Baha’i Writings it says:

“If the character of man be not changed, the futility of God’s Messengers would be realised”
(Baha’u’llah)

To me this is the miracle of Jesus. The love amongst the Christians, the willingness to serve and help humanity, the great spirit of charity are testimony to the greatness of Christ. The way I am treated here as an equal also makes me feel very impressed.
 
I think it’s entirely possible for miracles to happen involving the Eucharist. I see no inconsistency. You don’t have to be a prophet to experience one or to perform one. We Sufis have a long history of ascribing miracles to certain saints, though admittedly, some are probably exaggerations. Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani [may Allah have mercy on him] performed one when he was just a baby.
 
HungerNThirst4R said:
This geared toward any non-Catholics, especially Protestants but all are welcome to join the conversation. How do you feel about Eucharistic Miracles? What do you think about them and the scientific evidence behind them? Have you ever even heard of them?
Please read this article if you need a better understanding of what I’m talking about.
newmindjournal.com/2016/05/26/eucharistic-miracles-can-science-prove-faith/

Thanks.
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Keeping in mind that the Eucharist is always a miracle, and knowing that isn’t what your question is about, I have no problem with the idea that God can use this blessed sacrament in a way to return the wayward to Him.

Jon
 
ComplineSanFran said:
I read the piece as a bit of a fluff piece that gives a few numbers but no footnotes nor scientific data. I would have no problem dismissing it entirely. Perhaps if I were a Roman Catholic, it might be reassuring, but overall, would it speak to anyone outside your denomination? I would pretty much doubt it.

For those of us who believe in the presence of Christ, the Eucharist a wonderful mystery. For those who don’t, I doubt these words are going to make any difference.

Sorry.
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Although the article doesn’t insert hyperlinks to them, the examples given are published in scientific journals. A quick use of google scholar will show you that.
 
superwimp said:
Hello hunger and thirst,
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 I'm perfectly willing to believe that miracles happen to people regardless of their faith system.  I don't think they happen for the purpose of promoting one belief system over another or to indicate and any particular individuals in that faith system have any super powers that others don't have.
The agenda of the article was:
article>>>And thus today there are over 40,000 Protestant denominations who also do not believe that the bread and wine truly becomes the Flesh and Blood of Christ, but instead only a mere symbol of it.<<<
When a Catholic (or Orthodox for that matter but the theology differs only very slightly) priest says the words of consecration over the bread and wine it is believed that transubstantiation occurs, that the bread and wine become true Flesh and Blood.<<<
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The article also cites an example that happened in the last year in the USA in which an expected case was investigated and disproven. Also notice that in the quotes you posted it says it is “believed”.
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Wannano said:
The Lord moves in mysterious ways. If God authentically wants to give physical proof of Jesus’ living existence to an unbelieving world what better way is there of doing it than having it appear on a communion wafer which is a symbol of Christ’s body for some and which is a spiritual reality for others?
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What a cleaver way of explaining HIS Miracle away. These Eucharistic Miracles are PROOF that Jesus us truly present in the Holy Eucharist at all times. We Catholics don’t need “proof” we have always believed it. No symbol here! It IS a reality. God Bless, Memaw
 
HungerNThirst4R said:
The article also cites an example that happened in the last year in the USA in which an expected case was investigated and disproven. Also notice that in the quotes you posted it says it is “believed”.
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That is why the Catholic Church is VERY careful to investigate one before it claims anything to be a Miracle. That’s why we trust the Church in these matters. Belief is a very important part of Faith. The word AMEN means “I believe.” God Bless, Memaw
 
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