A question to Non-Catholics about Eucharistic Miracles

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Michael1966 said:
As a Catholic and as a scientist I must admit to being sceptical. I haven’t yet seen any reputable academic peer-reviewed investigation. I hear claims there are academic peer-reviewed papers, but haven’t yet seen specific references given. If anyone knows of any I would be fascinated to look at them. Currently I would put these claims in the same category as claims from charismatic Christians that gold teeth had appeared in their mouths - interesting hearsay which may point to something genuine, but a way off claims that have passed the test of more rigorous independent academic scrutiny.
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europepmc.org/abstract/med/4950729
 
Wannano said:
Memaw, it is good to hear from you. I think you misunderstood what I was saying and in all fairness I think you still might be misunderstanding. Certainly Jesus is not a symbol. I accept your apology. You did not offend me by defending the Lord’s Miracles, what was offensive to me was that you stated that I had cleverly explained away His miracle when in fact I was agreeing that using a communion host would be a great way to present a miracle.

At any rate I just got done reading the articles from Don Ruggero on the QUESTIONS FOR LUTHERANS thread and I am deeply intrigued by what he presents. If we are sincere we have so far to go.

However Memaw, while I have had trouble appreciating some of your
responses to me and other posters I am convicted that I did not respond to you in a loving manner and I am sorry. I was reacting and made a mistake. Peace.
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I may be a little to straight forward for some but my intentions are good. I have had so many non-Catholics tell me it is just a “symbol,” I may be a little touchy on the subject. Sometimes it’s hard to convey what we actually mean in a short response. I am still interested in knowing if there has ever been a Eucharistic Miracle in any other denomination’s communion service. God Bless, Memaw
 
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Memaw said:
I may be a little to straight forward for some but my intentions are good. I have had so many non-Catholics tell me it is just a “symbol,” I may be a little touchy on the subject. Sometimes it’s hard to convey what we actually mean in a short response. I am still interested in knowing if there has ever been a Eucharistic Miracle in any other denomination’s communion service. God Bless, Memaw
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Today medical science can tell us a lot about Eucharistic Miracles authenticity. Which wasn’t even possible not to many years ago. The Catholic Church does a VERY careful study into it before they approve it as such. All that said, the Catholic Church has preserved many Eucharistic miracles over the many centuries,( the miracle of Lanciano took place over 1100 years ago). Read up on it, very interesting and still “fresh”. The Russian Orthodox does have valid Holy Orders, so I am not surprised if they do. I wonder if they think all miracles are sign of lack of faith? God Bless, Memaw
 
Michael1966 said:
As a Catholic and as a scientist I must admit to being sceptical. I haven’t yet seen any reputable academic peer-reviewed investigation. I hear claims there are academic peer-reviewed papers, but haven’t yet seen specific references given. If anyone knows of any I would be fascinated to look at them. Currently I would put these claims in the same category as claims from charismatic Christians that gold teeth had appeared in their mouths - interesting hearsay which may point to something genuine, but a way off claims that have passed the test of more rigorous independent academic scrutiny.
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👍 As a Nurse Practitioner, I too have attempted to find these studies, but they just don’t seem to be out there. My guess is if this could be scientifically documented it would blow up the entire world.
 
HungerNThirst4R said:
Here you go ms lpn 🙂
europepmc.org/abstract/med/4950729
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That doesn’t link to anything but a search engine title for me. Do other people see something on that page (it could just be my browser I suppose). HungerNThirst4R - do you have a link to that article itself?

As a Catholic I do find it frustrating that nobody has yet been able to point me to anything of any academic substance on this subject. People talk of there being good evidence, but I haven’t yet been presented with any. And that does make me suspicious that there just isn’t anything significant, beyond heresay, out there.

I’d love there to be something significant, but as a scientist I have to be sceptical (without being cynical), and I have not yet seen anything that remotely challenges that scepticism. As yet there is simply nothing I have seen of academic merit that supports these claims.

Michael
 
May I be more challenging HungerNThirst.

You link to a reference (that for me doesn’t actually link to the original article).

May I ask, have you actually read the reference you point us to? Can we ask you about it?
 
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