A Random Universe

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Many Christians I meet are very uncomfortable with the idea of the universe being random. While reading Finding Darwin’s God by biologist Kenneth Miller, I have found a great quote that explains what a random universe means and I would like to share this. I would also highly recommend the book.
Part of (creationists) problem surely comes from the act of confusing “random” with “indeterminate.” In ordinary speech, when we say that something is random, we generally mean that anything can happen, with all outcomes having equal probabilities. The shuffling of a deck of cards, in the hands of a competent and honest dealer, produces a truly random outcome in which any of the many (fifty-two factorial) arrangements of the shuffled deck are equally probable. Physical events, generally speaking, are not all all random in this sense because all outcomes are not equally probable. The possible locations of an electron around an atomic nucleus are given by a probability wave that tells us which locations for the electron are most likely and which are so unlikely that they need not be considered as possible. Until we actually observe the location of the electron, we cannot tell where it will show up in that probability wave, and that is why its actual location is indeterminate. But this does not mean that an electron could, with equal probabilities, be just anywhere. Events at the atomic level are indeterminate, and those patterns are the ones we sometimes elevate to the status of physical laws.
Remarkably, what the critics of evolution consistently fail to see is that the very indeterminacy they misconstrue as randomness has to be, by any definition, a key feature of the mind of God. Remember, there is one (and only one) alternative to unpredictability - and that alternative is a strict, predictable determinism. The only alternative to what they describe as randomness would be a nonrandom universe of clockwork mechanisms that would also rule out active intervention by any supreme Deity. Caught between these two alternatives, they fail to see that the one more consistent with their religious beliefs is actually the mainstream scientific view linking evolution with the quantum reality of the physical sciences.
 
I haven’t read much that fears that kind of randomness, but I just wandered around the religious section of a used bookshop today and yep, you’ll find any attitude imaginable in print somewhere. I consider the fractality/mirroring of the universe a clue to the Christian God as opposed to other concepts of God because it resembles the fractality/mirroring pattern of Hebrew verse and thus shows up in the Old Testament.
 
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“The only alternative to what they describe as randomness would be a nonrandom universe of clockwork mechanisms that would also rule out active intervention by any supreme Deity.”

Why should we presume that either God controls absolutely everything or absolutely nothing?

Chuck
 
Why should we presume that either God controls absolutely everything or absolutely nothing?

Chuck
That presumption is not being made. What he is saying is that the only alternative to any randomness is a completely predictable and mechanical universe.
 
That presumption is not being made. What he is saying is that the only alternative to any randomness is a completely predictable and mechanical universe.
Ok then why does “creation” eliminate the possiblity of “any” randomness.

Chuck
 
with all outcomes having equal probabilities. The shuffling of a deck of cards, in the hands of a competent and honest dealer, produces a truly random outcome in which any of the many (fifty-two factorial) arrangements of the shuffled deck are equally probable
This reminds me of something in “Answering the new atheism” by Scott Hahn and Benjamin Wiker. Richard Dawkins said that the emergence of life on earth would be about the same probability as four people getting perfect bridge hands on the first deal, about one in a billion.

Hahn and Wiker pointed out the reality of something as extemely complex as a strand of dna assembling from random free floating molecules isn’t like four people each getting perfect bridge hands on the first deal, but rather like throwing a deck of cards into a hurricane and having them land in a four story house of cards with each story it’s own suit.

Whether the universe is determinate or random still doesn’t account for it’s existence. That is the underlying question, why a universe at all?
 
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