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Is it a sin to do something in a videogame that would be sinful in real life? For example: could you play a mage in a videogame, even if witchcraft would be sinful? Could you play a character who suppresses and uses demons as a source of power or makes deals with them for power?
 
The quick answer is: no, it’s not a sin. 🙂
It’s just make-believe, and doesn’t affect your real life actions.
 
Just be careful that what you are doing virtually does not creep into your actual life. For some, playing these games desensitizes them to violence, emotions, etc. And do not glorify the games, as others have. Some get so caught up in them they cannot separate them from reality.
 
The quick answer is: no, it’s not a sin. 🙂
It’s just make-believe, and doesn’t affect your real life actions.
I agree… as an MMO player… I am more concerned how players treat each other than what char they play as… Players are real people and I have seen players act with greed… arrogance… and viciousness toward each other… and it makes me wonder what kind of people they are in real life… but… I have met some very nice and unselfish people in game too… I once met a player who gave me free weapons for my Ranger… ( and this has happened many times to me ) and all he asked was… that I do a random act of kindness in real life 🙂 and I thanked him and said I would say a prayer for him… he sent me a tell back and thanked me… The point Im making is… where you meet people anywhere any time you can act in a Christian way and touch people…just because its a game does not mean that you can’t take your faith with you.

Play game… have fun… but remember … treat people as you would in real life.
I think that matters more than what Char you play 🙂
 
Just be careful that what you are doing virtually does not creep into your actual life. For some, playing these games desensitizes them to violence, emotions, etc.** And do not glorify the games, as others have. Some get so caught up in them they cannot separate them from reality.**
This is a rare minority, and I suspect many of them had mental health issues to begin with.
 
Just be careful that what you are doing virtually does not creep into your actual life. For some, playing these games desensitizes them to violence, emotions, etc. And do not glorify the games, as others have. Some get so caught up in them they cannot separate them from reality.
Yes, I agree with ABEACHGIRL. Many things are allowable, but are they conducive to a Catholic presence in one’s life? How do they edify anyone? Humans can be highly suggestible. Many people become obsessed with these games. I personally would never participate in them, but each person must work to know him or herself. There are so many wonderful, constructive and humanitarian ways to spend one’s precious time on earth that for myself, such games could never be part of my life. And of course there is the scripture that encourages us to let “all thoughts be subject to Christ.”
 
I agree… as an MMO player… I am more concerned how players treat each other than what char they play as… Players are real people and I have seen players act with greed… arrogance… and viciousness toward each other… and it makes me wonder what kind of people they are in real life… but… I have met some very nice and unselfish people in game too… I once met a player who gave me free weapons for my Ranger… ( and this has happened many times to me ) and all he asked was… that I do a random act of kindness in real life 🙂 and I thanked him and said I would say a prayer for him… he sent me a tell back and thanked me… The point Im making is… where you meet people anywhere any time you can act in a Christian way and touch people…just because its a game does not mean that you can’t take your faith with you.

Play game… have fun… but remember … treat people as you would in real life.
I think that matters more than what Char you play 🙂
Loved this - excellent advice! 👍 👍
 
This is a rare minority, and I suspect many of them had mental health issues to begin with.
True, but sadly, it only takes one of the “rare minority” of any kind to do great harm, as we’ve seen most tragically in the last few days.

Regarding video games, there was a time when they were not part of growing up at all. Decades ago when these games were very new, a local teenager hooked on violent video games, callously murdered a much younger boy in the woods. It was a very famous case, and shocked the entire East Coast.

Few people had even heard of these strange video games at the time, but this teen was one of the rare minority who got caught up in the world of fantasy and war games, witches, and warlocks. He became de-sensitized to violence and became a fantasist/ sociopath.

Surprisingly, a little store where he purchased these games is still in business, even when these games are more easily found on the internet or at local malls now. Occasionally, I’ll drive by that store and each time I do, I say a prayer for the poor innocent victim of someone’s sick imagination, someone who was feeding on horror and war games who was completely de-sensitized, who chose to live out his murderous fantasies by taking the life of someone else’s son.

Of course it’s only a rare minority who become monsters by engaging in violent video games. And there are classic books which contain just as much mental imagery, so we must be cautious about how we choose to spend our spare time. There is something particularly alluring about videos that attracts like no other form of “entertainment.” We are visual beings. The more potent, the more possible harm or good. If I think of the beauty of a portrait of Our Lady, I am always inspired. The “Pieta” and lovely music soothe and inspire the soul. What place, in our Catholic life, do violent or lurid videos belong if at all?

There is a scripture that helps us all here, “Let all thoughts be subject to Christ.” For that reason, each individual must decide for him or herself, or if under the age of eighteen, the parent must communicate to the child all the other possibilities open which would be time better spent: Catholic youth work, parish youth activities, loyal and regular Mass attendance. We all care deeply about all our daughters and all our sons. My rule of thumb has always been “If it doesn’t edify, find something that does.”
 
Yes, I agree with ABEACHGIRL. Many things are allowable, but are they conducive to a Catholic presence in one’s life? How do they edify anyone? Humans can be highly suggestible. Many people become obsessed with these games. I personally would never participate in them, but each person must work to know him or herself. There are so many wonderful, constructive and humanitarian ways to spend one’s precious time on earth that for myself, such games could never be part of my life. And of course there is the scripture that encourages us to let “all thoughts be subject to Christ.”
I also agree. I had several games accessible to me when I wanted to relax. Then I noticed that I was playing the games at the expense of strenghtening my spiritual life. I took off the games, and struggled a couple of days without my “recreation”, but knew that that was the best route for me. Everything in moderation, but, for me, it was necessary for me to just not play. Have fun but, just stay discerning on how is affecting your walk in Christian faith.
 
Generally when I play (mostly playing Red Dead Redemption now and Minecraft) I’m a live and let live kind of guy. Just hunting down bandits. Until another player griefs me, then I generally hunt them down with a vengeance.
 
We should apply the same standard here, I think, as we do to other media. A movie is acceptable when it portrays immoral behaviour (especially immoral uses of sex and violence) in a true and honest fashion, showing (or hinting at) the spiritual or practical consequences of moral dissipation. The Lord of the Rings is a great example. A movie is objectionable when it manipulates the truth of things in order to depict immorality as normal or even praiseworthy (Friends with Benefits), or if it pornographically dwells upon the viscera of sex or violence (Saw).

I think it best to consider video games as movies which you help to write. Me, I love playing morally ambiguous characters, which is how I play Mass Effect (Shepherd is mostly good, but occasionally loses his temper or goes too far) and KOTOR (my character always sought good ends, but sometimes used terrible means to attain them), but those games really showed some spiritual and practical consequences of going down the renegade path – the characters became less happy, more troubled people for their moral errors. The Deus Ex games are twice as good, for the same reason.

Assassain’s Creed 2, on the other hand, which I have been really enjoying for a while, is starting to cause me some serious moral heartburn. Although, for much of the game, all of the guys you fight are at least plausibly legitimate targets, and becoming an assassin has clearly changed Ezio’s life for the darker, as the game goes on, Ezio becomes happier and more powerful even as his jobs become less defensible – often ending up with him murdering low-level city guards who are just doing their jobs, haven’t done anything to anyone, and have families to go home to. The titular Creed is being gradually revealed as a belief in (I’m not joking – it’s right there in the Codex) explicit moral relativism and a hatred of authority – and this is what the game celebrates. I’m getting pretty conflicted about continuing on with it.

Manhunt and its ilk are right out for me, because they are such pornified glorifications of violence.

I think it is justifiable to participate in the airport massacre in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, because the moral lesson is so clear: sometimes you take terrible means to bring about a great end, but, because the world is unpredictable, you actually end up with far, far worse evils than ever before. In that case, using immoral means to take down a terrorist cell brings about a world war.
 
The quick answer is: no, it’s not a sin. 🙂
It’s just make-believe, and doesn’t affect your real life actions.
As you Quote NO Religion you are not in a position to give an Answer to a Catholic question. Are you trying to be rude, or acting a know all, or rather to lead people into hell along with you.:mad:
 
I wondered this once, as a random thought, while playing Civilization 4. I’m very fond of using the ‘burn baby burn’ option when it comes to enemy cities… especially when that enemy declared war on me, for no apparent reason (that means you, Tokugawa…).

I don’t think I’ll be held accountable for the lives of millions of computer Japanese, but, if I am, Purgatory’s always there…

That being said, we are told in 1 Corinthians:

[BIBLEDRB]1 Corinthians 10:31[/BIBLEDRB]

The succeeding verses suggest it only applies to real people, so…

[BIBLEDRB]1 Corinthians 10:32-33[/BIBLEDRB]

I think we’re safe… as long as it stays inside the fictional word in which it exists, and does not spill over into the real.
 
As you Quote NO Religion you are not in a position to give an Answer to a Catholic question. Are you trying to be rude, or acting a know all, or rather to lead people into hell along with you.:mad:
I think Anemone was referring to games as being fictional…:confused:
 
The video game is not real life, which is why it is called a video game. Don’t worry.
 
Is it a sin to do something in a videogame that would be sinful in real life? For example: could you play a mage in a videogame, even if witchcraft would be sinful? Could you play a character who suppresses and uses demons as a source of power or makes deals with them for power?
This is a good question.

Could it fall under sins of the mind?

Just trying to make a point here. You probably wouldnt go out in real life and murder someone or practice witchcraft but your entertaining yourself “playing with fire” so to speak.

To help put into perspective pornography/sexual based video games for example you may not be planning on commiting adultry or having premarital sex in real life but its a sin
to be entertained by.

Ask yourself this question Would Jesus play those types of video games? The answer is no.

Just a thought.
 
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