A renewed call for Islam slavery.

[Sam_777]

June 04, 2011:
“We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
This is not religiously forbidden," she added, indicating that Caliph Haroun Al-Rashid (766-809 AD) was married to one woman but possessed 200 concubines."

Article, Her Youtube call, Support from Quran.​

Chechnya has 94% Muslims, I wish they read her call, those Muslim Arabs have taking advantages of those non-Arabic speaking countries into believing in Islam (since only few Islamic scriptures are translated into other languages), while in reality it’s nothing but a religion to gain money, power, and sex.

I wish one of those Muslim Chechnyans asks that Muslim activist what is her opinion if the Iraqis back in 1990 (during the Iraq invasion of Kuwait) had taken Kuwaitis as concubines!

And I wish someone would deliver just this verse form the Bible to those deceived Chechnyans, maybe they would realize the truth about the fruit of Muhammed one day:

*(Matthew 7:15-17):
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.” *

 

[FabiusMaximus]

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June 04, 2011:
“We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
This is not religiously forbidden," she added, indicating that Caliph Haroun Al-Rashid (766-809 AD) was married to one woman but possessed 200 concubines."

Article, Her Youtube call, Support from Quran.​

Chechnya has 94% Muslims, I wish they read her call, those Muslim Arabs have taking advantages of those non-Arabic speaking countries into believing in Islam (since only few Islamic scriptures are translated into other languages), while in reality it’s nothing but a religion to gain money, power, and sex.

I wish one of those Muslim Chechnyans asks that Muslim activist what is her opinion if the Iraqis back in 1990 (during the Iraq invasion of Kuwait) had taken Kuwaitis as concubines!

And I wish someone would deliver just this verse form the Bible to those deceived Chechnyans, maybe they would realize the truth about the fruit of Muhammed one day:

(Matthew 7:15-17):
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.”

This is because Islam is a religion of destruction.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Defective logic and thinking. The fact its gone on through history only made us realize in past centurys just how wrong we were. And we were wrong. To try to justify the abomination by history, is deception of existing evil.

Its going to take time and much better effort of Christian “unity”. Or many more will go into slavery including Christians.

We’re lacking time so we need work harder and faster on the Christain Unity.

God Bless, Gary

 

[nablaise]

This is the true nature of Islam: regalization of Hagar’s relationship with Abraham. Muslim never got why God considered Isaac and not Ismael as the first born.

 

[dzheremi]

I have two questions related to this “woman’s” idea (in quotes because she is a disgrace to women everywhere):

1. Why exactly is sex slavery considered less of a threat to women than adultery?
2. If this is legal in Islam with the rationalization that it protects women from adultery (by making them sex slaves…!), then is there a similar provision to protect men from potential adultery by their women? I know that an adulterous woman can be lashed or stoned depending on the local interpretation of Shari’a if the charge is “proven”, but what about these so-called ‘preventive’ measures?

Anyway, Allah yukhalesna…there can’t be anything more insane than this. Even the author of the story from Kuwait Times (probably also a Muslim!) can’t seem to believe it: “The activist, Salwa Al-Mutairi, suggested apparently seriously…” Let us pray to God that this stupidity remains a very unpopular idea, and that all the women in Islam are protected from…the other women in Islam…

My head hurts now. I’m going to bed.

 

[Sam_777]

Its going to take time and much better effort of Christian “unity”. Or many more will go into slavery including Christians.

Ditto that…

1. Why exactly is sex slavery considered less of a threat to women than adultery?

In her Youtube video, it seems she does not care about woman at all, she wants to know with whom the men are sleeping and that the concubines are disease free so that men do not transfer diseases to their legal wives.

1. If this is legal in Islam with the rationalization that it protects women from adultery (by making them sex slaves…!), then is there a similar provision to protect men from potential adultery by their women?

Good question, but remember that Islam made men higher that women in many aspects, so you wouldn’t find a support for a Muslim woman having male slaves…

Anyway, Allah yukhalesna…there can’t be anything more insane than this.

I totally agree with you, and I think the Arabic Jews and Christians during Muhammed time also understood that, that is why they did not convert, so Muhammed had to curse them through the claimed revelation of Quran and lastly he fought them and turned to the Quraysh tribe instead (since they were not religious people).

Arabic Muslims in general try to play on the language barrier, deceiving the non-Arabic speakers (like those many non-Arabic converters on Youtube), http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon9.gif poor Chechnyans, Muslims deceived them and now they want to make their women concubines for their lust.

 

[Catholic1954]

http://www.alsa3ah.com/contents/newsth/9838.jpg
June 04, 2011:
“We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.
This is not religiously forbidden," she added, indicating that Caliph Haroun Al-Rashid (766-809 AD) was married to one woman but possessed 200 concubines."

Article, Her Youtube call, Support from Quran.​

Chechnya has 94% Muslims, I wish they read her call, those Muslim Arabs have taking advantages of those non-Arabic speaking countries into believing in Islam (since only few Islamic scriptures are translated into other languages), while in reality it’s nothing but a religion to gain money, power, and sex.

I wish one of those Muslim Chechnyans asks that Muslim activist what is her opinion if the Iraqis back in 1990 (during the Iraq invasion of Kuwait) had taken Kuwaitis as concubines!

And I wish someone would deliver just this verse form the Bible to those deceived Chechnyans, maybe they would realize the truth about the fruit of Muhammed one day:

(Matthew 7:15-17):
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.”

You first, Salwa.

 

[dzheremi]

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In her Youtube video, it seems she does not care about woman at all, she wants to know with whom the men are sleeping and that the concubines are disease free so that men do not transfer diseases to their legal wives.

How considerate of her to the men…

Good question, but remember that Islam made men higher that women in many aspects, so you wouldn’t find a support for a Muslim woman having male slaves…

Oh, of course not. I just wondered if there was anything to protect against suspicions of adultery, since it seems like a lot of these ideas come out of protecting against possible adultery, not actual adultery.

I totally agree with you, and I think the Arabic Jews and Christians during Muhammed time also understood that, that is why they did not convert, so Muhammed had to curse them through the claimed revelation of Quran and lastly he fought them and turned to the Quraysh tribe instead (since they were not religious people).

It’s interesting you should mention this, brother. I was just reading the other day in a book about the history of migrations of Christians under Islam, and the book mentioned how some of the Christian communities today that now speak Arabic and are considered native to parts of the Levant (Syria, Lebanon, and the non-Assyrian Christians in Iraq) are actually not Syriac-speaking Christians who lost their language (this was common for the native Syriac Christians in those places, like it is still today ), but some of the descendents of the Arab Christian tribes that left after Islam started, when they were forced out by the expanding Muslim caravans. So it is probably not how the Muslims try argue today, that all the Christian or Jewish tribes eventually converted to Islam because they saw that it was true (or through intermarriage), but some of them literally left their homeland forever rather than be subjected to the Islamic raids and pressures!

Arabic Muslims in general try to play on the language barrier, deceiving the non-Arabic speakers (like those many non-Arabic converters on Youtube),

We’re working on that, ya akhy.

poor Chechnyans, Muslims deceived them and now they want to make their women concubines for their lust.

Yes…all of the Caucasus area is a mess. Islam will not really help if all it can offer them is slavery and oppression. I just pray that things get better. I don’t think any of the foreign fighters who go there to be mujahideen actually care about the people in these places, only to make more “Islamic” territory (when it already is that! Chechnya is already majority-Muslim without these stupid plans to make a regional caliphate that go back to at least 1700s but have never, ever worked!)

 

[Sam_777]

How considerate of her to the men…

Maybe she is afraid that her husband will transfer a disease to her.

So it is probably not how the Muslims try argue today, that all the Christian or Jewish tribes eventually converted to Islam because they saw that it was true (or through intermarriage), but some of them literally left their homeland forever rather than be subjected to the Islamic raids and pressures!

I agree with you…

We’re working on that, ya akhy.

Islam will not really help if all it can offer them is slavery and oppression.

The problem that most Chechnyans do not speak English nor Arabic!, so they are taking the Muslim-Arabs word of what Islam is offering them.

 

[nordskoven]

Savinah Teubal’s Sarah the Priestess, “priestess” being an unfortunate word chosen by her editor to describe the EN, literally woman of “grace” or queen, is very thorough in explaining why Hagar and her son, Ishmael, were kicked out. The term of mockery describing the taunting has sexual overtones. And God said Ishmael’s kin would be “ever warlike with all men’s hands against them.” I suggest this is because their relationship with women–Hagar mocking Sarah; Ishmael mocking the son of Sarah–is an inherent flaw; and the basis of war.

This lineage is Abraham’s son, but the covenant promise was to the EN/Woman of Grace, Sarah and her seed, and lineage is accounted through the woman alone in the Woman & Seed system. Jews do this to this day. This is why Abraham and Sarah were allowed to marry as having different mothers though the same fathers. They were not considered related. And inheritance under the Genesis 3:15 Woman & Seed system was to the youngest, not the oldest, and lots of God’s chosen are the youngest! King David comes to mind. So this Woman & Seed system is “hiding in plain sight” per her scholarly research.

Of course the Archangel Gabriel’s address of the Virgin Mary as “Full of Grace” is an ancient title showing the fulfillment of this Woman & Seed system from Genesis 3:15, something I discussed with Savinah Teubal but which she was resistant to as a proud Jewess resistant to Messianic Judaism i.e. Christianity. May the Lord have mercy on her soul.

 

[Sam_777]

And God said Ishmael’s kin would be "ever warlike with all men’s hands against them.

*(Genesis 16:11-12):
The angel of the LORD also said to her: “You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

*The Bible is exactly right of what had happened, what is happening, and what will happen in the future, for example Genesis 16:11-12 clearly shows how Salwa Al-Mutairi (the ishmael’s descendant in the above article) showed hostility not only to non-Muslims but also towards Muslims in another country.