a response to 2nd Gen's thread title about a particular kind of prayer...

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2ndGen said:
Thank you.

It did produce “postitive” fruit which is more than I can say for this thread unfortunately that is pitting us against each other.

At least my thread brought Catholics and Protestants together on “something”.

What was the purpose of this thread?

To espouse judgment?

🤷

Again, thank you.

🙂
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What you did was provocative, and not at all in a good way. Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked.
 
paidion said:
Harpazo:

I beg your pardon. The post within the thread to which I was referring was very clear about what someone else thought about the title too. And again, as I stated earlier, I have never seen/heard prayer described in that way. Think what you will about me, but I would dare say there are many people who draw similar conclusions based on the common usage of the word and not because they have a “dirty” mind.

Again, my point in bringing this up is to “publicly” address the issue of purposely provocative titles. I think the discussion of prayer is a fantastic idea. But do we really have to use double-entendres to get people to read the thread?

shalom 🙂
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Perception is all relative.

How offended do you think some might be if I posted
“Peter started The Catholic Church!”

Should I “not” do so then?

Or is it ok because it won’t automatically be considered
vulgar by common society’s lack of knowledge?

I tell you this, more people here have been enraged by
my defenses of The Church, than by the thread that you
obsessed enough over to actually create a thread of your
own about.

Again…a thread about a thread.

A judgement passed.

😦
 
DDClark said:
One of the threads using the same “words” has been removed from the board already, presumably by the CA staff. I think that speaks volumes.

It’s offensive, and was meant to be. It also shows a lack of Christian maturity.

I think that means he still needs prayer regarding his thread title choices:shrug:

ddc
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Ok, another “holier than thouer” who feels so perfectly sinless that he can pronounce judgement. 🤷

Fact is, it wasn’t removed because of the content of the OP,
but because the nasty and uncharitiable responses of the complainers
and because it was jijacked and taken off topic by them.

As for you judging my Christian maturity level,
I’d say it was extremely immature of you to assume
then post on something that turned out to be totally untrue.
(One of the threads using the same “words” has been removed from the board already, presumably by the CA staff. I think that speaks volumes.)

Allow me to mature you a little bit…judge not, lest ye be judged, for the measure that you use to judge will be used to judge “you”.
 
Namesake said:
What you did was provocative, and not at all in a good way. Even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked.
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The only ones that got provoked, were the ignorant.

The wise exchanged with me in a very productive and nice way.
 
Wait…you guys do know that this thread is going to be deleted because it has absolutely nothing to do with Non-Catholic Christianity, right?
 
Harpazo said:
What shows a lack of Christian maturity is the fact that there is even a thread discussing this!:mad: He clearly meant no harm by it at all, considering it’s a term used in Catholic spirituallity. Like or not, it’s there. It refers to prayers that are said at random when a person is moved to say them. Nothing more nothing less.

Baptists and other religions like them do it as well, we just have a term for it. If you and others can’t accept it and have to be dirty minded about it, then the problem is with you all.

I have nothing further to say on the matter.

Alaha minokhoun
Andrew
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Thank you Andrew.

The only thing that I’m sorry about is the discourse that this thread is causing.

I’m not going to run to the moderators to complain about it because I believe in freedom of expression (even if I’m the one who’s being personally attacked), but it saddens me that people take nuetral words and bend them to their minds capacity to understand.

For the judges, I conferred with The Forums Moderators when I re-posted the thread and they agreed to it as worded. I yielded to The Forum’s Authority.

I won’t allow anyone to make me feel bad for my trying to strike up conversation on unorthodox subjects.

God bless all of those that came to my defense and may God bless more those who slandered me and misrepresented me here.

:gopray2:
 
jmcrae said:
It’s called an “ejaculatory prayer;” not an “ejaculation.” Just FYI. 😉
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Ooops!

:o

Thanks!

:doh2:

(in my defense, under the word “ejaculation” it does say “2. A sudden short exclamation, especially a brief pious utterance or prayer.”, but if l used it wrong, then I stand corrected 😃 )
 
Ok how immature. It reminds of little children giggling when scripture references a “donkey”. It’s not just a “Catholic” term, I’ve read the term in classic literature meaning an exclaimation. It is not “foul language”.
 
2ndGen said:
Ooops!

:o

Thanks!

:doh2:

(in my defense, under the word “ejaculation” it does say “2. A sudden short exclamation, especially a brief pious utterance or prayer.”, but if l used it wrong, then I stand corrected 😃 )
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Had you used the term “ejaculatory prayer” I doubt that you would have been taken to task. But your choice was obviously inflammatory by design.
 
2ndGen said:
The only ones that got provoked, were the ignorant.
The wise exchanged with me in a very productive and nice way.
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I wouldn’t go THAT far 🙂

When I saw the title, on this forum, I KNEW there was more to this than met the eye…“provoked” doesn’t always have a negative connotation.

Remember when “gay” meant “happy” ?
 
Namesake said:
Had you used the term “ejaculatory prayer” I doubt that you would have been taken to task. But your choice was obviously inflammatory by design.
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Actually, the definition of “ejaculation” is the same as ejaculatory.

If I would’ve used the term “pious prayer”, of course no one would’ve learned anything from that.

My goal was to introduce Prostestants to another Catholic tradition that they’d been doing all along.

Did Jesus sugar coat His teachings?

Nope!

He spoke in Parables.

And that’s what I did.

And I got canned by the Cyber Pharisees who took me to the edge of a cliff and attempted to throw me off too. But I walked right through them.

And I’m glad that I did.

I got some great responses and learned a lot myself.

The shame is that you criticizers are spending more text on criticising the thread, that contributing to it.
 
rayne89 said:
Ok how immature. It reminds of little children giggling when scripture references a “donkey”. It’s not just a “Catholic” term, I’ve read the term in classic literature meaning an exclaimation. It is not “foul language”.
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👋

Guilty as charged!

😃

I too giggled when I heard that Jesus rode into town on an a55!

Do you think the “holier than thouers” here would start to slam The Holy Bible now?

:rolleyes:
 
2ndGen said:
👋

Guilty as charged!

😃

I too giggled when I heard that Jesus rode into town on an *****!

Do you think the “holier than thouers” here would start to slam The Holy Bible now?

:rolleyes:
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Actually, the majority of new translations say “young donkey” nowadays. 😉

Language is for communicating with. Use words that convey your meaning; and avoid words that could obscure it, or distract from it.
 
Uncle_Norbert said:
I wouldn’t go THAT far 🙂

When I saw the title, on this forum, I KNEW there was more to this than met the eye…“provoked” doesn’t always have a negative connotation.

Remember when “gay” meant “happy” ?
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:rotfl:

Allow me to clarify, when I used the word ignorant,
I didn’t mean it as a slight, but I meant it literally
(in a nuetral manner).

😃

Uncle Norbert, your post made me gay!

:dancing:
 
2ndGen said:
By the way brother Namesake,
the thread that this particular thread is “protesting”
does use the phrase “ejaculatory prayer”;

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=216013

So you see, it didn’t make a difference.

🤷

But I appreciate your suggesting that.

:hug3:
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“Ejaculation” is an acceptable term for the short prayers. This was taught in Catholic schools when I was a child.
  1. EJACULATION IN HONOUR OF THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION
    Pope Pius VI., by a Rescript of Nov. 21, 1793, at the prayer of the seraphic order of St. Francis, granted to all the faithful, in order to increase the fervour of their devotion to the great mystery of the Immaculate Conception of most holy Mary -
    An indulgence of 100 days, every time they say with devotion either of the following ejaculations:
Blessed he the Holy and Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Or,

In conceptione tua, Virgo Maria, immaculata fuisti: ora pro nobis Patrem, cujus Filium Jesum de Spiritu Saucto conceptum peperisti
 
Namesake said:
What was the original title? That’s what got people’s attention, as you most certainly intended.
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The original title was:

“Do Protestants ejaculate when they pray?”

Ironically, it was the nastiness of the complainers that violated forum rules…

…not the title of the thread.
 
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