A right to die with dignity

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"Dr. Jack Kevorkian’s release from a Michigan prison Friday and a planned California vote this week are bringing the issue of physician-assisted suicide back to the forefront, where it belongs. For more than eight years, the government kept Kevorkian, prisoner No. 284797, in a cage because he behaved humanely. In essence, Kevorkian, 79, was a political prisoner, prosecuted for his humanity.
It is simply inhumane for government to prevent terminally ill patients from safely and humanely ending their lives. In fact, it is wrong for government to prevent anyone from safely and humanely ending his or her life. However, when it comes to the terminally ill, it is downright Draconian to force people to continue living in pain if they wish to die. We do not even force that fate on animals.
Kevorkian, who reportedly is dying from hepatitis C he contracted during the Vietnam War, is the perfect example of how powerful and dangerous government in this country has become. In a free society, you can have no crime worth imprisonment if you have no victims. Kevorkian’s patients requested his services; he did not simply kill people randomly. The septuagenarian was obviously no threat to society.

While there has never been a full accounting, by his own admission he helped some 130 people end their lives, beginning with Janet Adkins, 54, of Portland, Ore., on June 4, 1990, and ending with Thomas Youk, 52, of Waterford Township, Mich., on Sept. 17, 1998. These souls were able to die at a time of their choosing and in a humane, painless and dignified manner rather than living in pain waiting for the end to come.
As a Roman Catholic, I am certainly aware that my religion, like most religions, Christian or otherwise, is philosophically opposed to physician-assisted suicide. After all, there is nothing more sacred than life.
While I disagree with the church’s opposition to physician-assisted suicide, I certainly agree with the sanctity of human life. However, and this is an important distinction, the quality of life is certainly more important than quantity of life.
It would be an uncompassionate God, indeed, who would not allow a person to end life when it is no longer worth living.
Still, no one is forcing those opposed to physician-assisted suicide to use that medical treatment. If they choose to live a life of pain and suffering, that is their choice. They have no right in a free society to force that fate on others. When a person is suffering beyond all hope of recovery, it is time to die. Subjecting that person to further suffering is not respecting life; it is, plain and simple, cruel.
The issue really boils down to a simple question: Who owns our bodies? If we are free individuals, then the answer is clear: We own our bodies. However, if we do not have the right to take our own lives, especially when facing a terminal illness or unmanageable pain, then it is obvious that government owns our lives.
Oregon voters passed the Death with Dignity Act in a 1994 ballot measure. It went into effect in 1997 and as of Dec. 31, 2006, 292 people have chosen to end their lives.
For the last decade, the law has allowed Oregon doctors to prescribe a lethal dose of drugs to a mentally competent, terminally ill patient who makes written and oral requests, consults two physicians, and endures a mandatory waiting period. No one else, neither relatives nor doctors, can make the decision to end a person’s life. Only the patient can make that decision and the patient is the one who must administer the lethal dose.
The Oregon law is an enlightened approach to permitting those who are suffering a way to end their lives using medical science rather than splattering their brains on the bedroom wall for loved ones to find later.
That is exactly what happened with Percy Bridgman, the Nobel Prize-winning physicist who, at 79, was entering the final stages of terminal cancer.
His final note said it best: “It is not decent for society to make a man do this to himself.”
Indeed, it is not.

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I threw up when I read this one.
 
Anyone with internet access can create a blog. What makes this blog stand out from all others? Does it have more influence than a blog that someone from CAF creates? Calling Jack Kevorkian a political prisoner immediately puts this blogger way out in left field (or is it right field?) and disinclines me to respect anything he writes.
 
We do not own our bodies. We are created beings from a loving Heavenly Father. We do not own our bodies, He does. We do not have the right to end our lives. He gives life, and only He has the right to take life. We are blessed to live as long as He gives us. No one wants to suffer but none of us will ever suffer as much as Christ did when He suffered and died for us. When you speak of our owning our own bodies you sound like the pro-abortion people who say that women have the right to do whatever they want with their own bodies including killing the innocent children they carry within their bodies.
Remember, all life is sacred and is a gift from a loving Father in Heaven.
 
Anyone with internet access can create a blog. What makes this blog stand out from all others? Does it have more influence than a blog that someone from CAF creates? Calling Jack Kevorkian a political prisoner immediately puts this blogger way out in left field (or is it right field?) and disinclines me to respect anything he writes.
Kevorkian has a very favorable interview coming up on 60 minutes. What many who support him either dont know or dont care about is that autopsies showed that 50% of those he killed did have have a fatal disease-in fact many of them were suffering no illness at all.
 
**I am 40 years old.

I am dying.

I am in extreme pain and soon i will no longer be able to function in a “normal” capacity.

I live in Canada and go to sleep each night wishing I lived in a province or state with as Enlightened Goverment Officials as Oregon has.

I honestly envy people that will be able to leave this world in an honourable fashion.

A word to everyone posting here, if you are not in our shoes, you truly cannot understand how we feel.**
 
Angel Trae
I cannot pray for the right to die,if you are talking about assisted suicide.However,i will pray that you will get relief from your pain.
I think i do know how you feel as i did not have good health as a child.My mother once said that,if there were two strains of an illness,i would catch the more dangerous one.Although i was only
about six years old at the time,i can still remember gasping for breath because of croupe in the windpipe.Mum didn’t expect me to
see six years old.In a few weeks time i start my 66th.year.I’m confined to the house a lot now because of arthritis,but my health was reasonable between 11years and 62 years,so i just enjoy my memories.That is,my jaunts abroad.There was a downside which i kind of recovered from,a car crash which left me with a blind side
and i cannot hear without a hearing aid.
I’m not Mother Theresa or Padre Pio,but i think my prayers for you will help.
 
“dignity”

Defined by whom?

Those in the culture of death have a definition of “dignity” - and it changes every day.

Today it is those unconscious who are on expensive life support. Then it is the conscious. Then it is those who are not on life support.
 
“dignity”

Defined by whom?

Those in the culture of death have a definition of “dignity” - and it changes every day.

Today it is those unconscious who are on expensive life support. Then it is the conscious. Then it is those who are not on life support.
well, for myself, it would be dignity defined by ME. as it should be for each individual person i think. when i get to a point where all hope is lost and i barely hang on to life through a fog of intense medications and are confined to bed because of the immobility of all of the tubes and equipment hooked up to me.

it is against your beliefs i assume for me to want to have a little bit of my pride intact when i die as well. not to be having someone clean my butt because i can’t use the bathroom and to have to have someone else spoon feed me my meals and then wipe my chin with a napkin because i can’t even do that for myself …

yes, i think the definition would be something set out by the terminally ill person themselves.
 
If a person afflicted with a terminal disease wishes to discontinue medical intervention, he or she is morally free to do so. Catholic teaching does not require us to take pills, subject ourselves to surgery, enter hospital, etc. We are free to accept or reject medical treatment. This is true whether the treatment be deemed extraordinary means or not. We may die with dignity in the privacy of our own homes in the presence of family and friends if we so choose. What we are not allowed to do is perform any act which will result in premature death. We take no lethal injection or potion. We do not fall upon our sword or shoot ourselves with our favorite firearm or burn ourselves to death on a funeral pyre. “Dr.” Kavorkian was not a medical practitioner (he had no patients}; he was instead a pathologist in a medical laboratory. The only difference between him and any other murderer is the choice of weapon. Kavorkian chose to employ a less messy form for killing his “patients.” An interesting note on his diffence argument is that not long after his trial a young man was charged with killing his friend with a pistol. He argued that he was only helping his friend who had done something that resulted in the death of someone very dear to him and could no longer face living. He had begged to be killed to end his misery. Basically Kavorkian’s argument but with emotional rather than physical illness as the source of the decision to end one’s life.

Matthew
 
**i never said i was a supporter of Kovorkian.
i am a supporter of the idea behind what he was doing.
not only relieving terminally ill patients like myself from the pain and emotional exhaustion that entirely consumes me most days to the point that the person i once was is no longer recognizeable to myself, my friends and my family, but, in that mainstream idea, my two young daughters would be spared from watching the few remnants of my humanity that i cling to being torn from my grip as i decline in both physical and mental capacity to the point that nothing of me remains in this husk that will no longer even resemble me.

tell me again that those should be the last memories my daughters have of me. i watched my father die 6 years ago, 4 days before christmas. i haven’t been able to deal with my grief well enough to hang lights or put a tree up since coming home that night and taking everything down. i try every year. every year i go to the chests that hold the ornaments and decorations that should be hanging all around our home and maybe lending a bit of cheer to an otherwise dull existence (mine is very dull). and each year, i cry into my hands and close the chests unable to overcome the loss and the images of what i saw him reduced to.

if you are a parent reading this, let me ask you a question.
if you were raised in an abusive home as a child, would you not want to change that cycle in your lifetime, with your children?
would you not want something better for them than what you went through? if your answer is yes, then it won’t be that hard to see my reasoning in this. whether you chose to agree or disagree with me, is of no importance to me. i am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.

i would rather have a live wake, a celebration of my life, not my death. and slip away quietly with my children at my side knowing this is what i want and that i am at peace and prepared for what comes next. these are MY wishes. and MY opinion.

you do not have to agree with me.**
 
When I read about your grief after losing your Father around Christmas I just had to respond. My Mom passed away on Christmas Day. It took me many years to get over the fact that she was taken on her favorite day of the year. Nine years after she passed away my daughter was born on Christmas Eve. I still remember my Mom with sorrow but I also celebrate that wonderful time of the year when my daughter was born. It’s always hard to lose a parent but it’s especially difficult when it happens on a major holiday. The day will come when you’ll be a bit more comfortable with the Christmas decorations.
Isn’t there anything available that can help with your pain? Is there a pain clinic in your area?
 
**my thoughts are with you in having lost your mother and isn’t it wonderful the magic that a child brings into your life 🙂

actually, a pain clinic just opened recently in the city nearest to where i live now. before the closest one was Toronto which is several hours away, a close to impossible trip for me to make at this point.

my doctor already has the referral in to the clinic, i was told at my last appointmnet (last friday) that i should be hearing from them soon to setup an initial appointment.
i am very much looking forward to this appointment because i really do need some other form of pain management than just the massive amount of prescription drugs i now take (and have taken for several years) that are actually harmful to some of my existing conditions. :eek:

unfortunately for me, the medication is the only thing that is allowing me to even get up from bed and move about at a limited pace through the days (and often alot of nights) right now.

i am very anxious to see what they have to suggest to better my way of life from what it is now. 👍

the saddest part about skipping the christmas celebration is that i am seeing in my children that it is having an adverse affect. the last two years, my youngest daughter has cut out a small cardboard tree and set it in the family room. it hurts so much more to know i am hurting her 😦
yesterday i called my doctor and asked to be put on anti-depressants so they will have built up in my system by christmas and after that i went to the community mental building and put my name on the waiting list to talk to a councillor.

i am determined to break the pattern of recurring grief that i have been going through for the last 5 years. i really do want to, and am looking foward to decorating the house with my children this december 👍**
 
the ovarian cancer my wife and I thought we beat years ago returned. at the end of her fight while she was in considerable pain, opportunities for an “assist” from attending medical personnel were clearly offered. we declined. this discussion did not go beyond us, not even to immediate family. I do not understand the need for public drama.

there’s a reason why the Night Prayer closes with a petition for a peaceful death. at least in my experience, death typically isn’t dignified or peaceful or stage managed or on demand and frequently leaves the question, “why”.
 
Angel Trae,

I am sorry for you loss and your pain. I will say a prayer for you.

I was at a talk last night with Fr. Andrew Apostoli from the CFR’s, and he had some comments that I think lend perspective to your situation.

He was talking about why people sin, and using the Prodigal son as an example.

He said the two main reasons are
  1. We believe we have something coming to us. We deserve the gifts of life, and have earned them.
  2. We think our lives are ours, to do with as we please.
On the contrary, he said, everything we have is a gift from God, and our lives belong to him. We earn nothing, we are His creatures entirely. In the words of the old Baltimore Catechism, we exist to “know, love and serve God, with all our hearts and minds and souls”

If you look at it this way, perhaps you can see that there is great dignity in living your life, and even dying in a way that glorifies God.

Offer up your suffering for the forgotten souls in purgatory. Face your trials and grief while praising the Lord.

Imagine the example to your family and friend. Imagine your rewards in Heaven.

God Bless you and may you find peace in the Lord
 
**my thoughts are with you in having lost your mother and isn’t it wonderful the magic that a child brings into your life 🙂

actually, a pain clinic just opened recently in the city nearest to where i live now. before the closest one was Toronto which is several hours away, a close to impossible trip for me to make at this point.

my doctor already has the referral in to the clinic, i was told at my last appointmnet (last friday) that i should be hearing from them soon to setup an initial appointment.
i am very much looking forward to this appointment because i really do need some other form of pain management than just the massive amount of prescription drugs i now take (and have taken for several years) that are actually harmful to some of my existing conditions. :eek:

unfortunately for me, the medication is the only thing that is allowing me to even get up from bed and move about at a limited pace through the days (and often alot of nights) right now.

i am very anxious to see what they have to suggest to better my way of life from what it is now. 👍

the saddest part about skipping the christmas celebration is that i am seeing in my children that it is having an adverse affect. the last two years, my youngest daughter has cut out a small cardboard tree and set it in the family room. it hurts so much more to know i am hurting her 😦
yesterday i called my doctor and asked to be put on anti-depressants so they will have built up in my system by christmas and after that i went to the community mental building and put my name on the waiting list to talk to a councillor.

i am determined to break the pattern of recurring grief that i have been going through for the last 5 years. i really do want to, and am looking foward to decorating the house with my children this december 👍**
what an angel you are!!! your an amazing woman!!! i only hope that when it is near my time to go that i have as much grace and strength and love that you do! your simply amazing!!! God bless you sister!!!
 
**this will be my last post here. i thank everyone who posted in response to my post and let me know how you think about this topic. i am afraid that bringing up god does not make me feel any different about my illnesses, my desires, my treatment etc.

the bible says that god will never give me more than i can handle at one time. well, he overdid it and my faith went far beyond waning to the point of being snuffed out.

also, i stated that i wish i lived in a place where it would be my choice, (god does give free will), as to how i die and when i die.
unfortunately i am very poor and live in ontario, canada.
besides not having the resources at hand to co-ordinate a timed death for myself, i wouldn’t know where to begin if i did.

when i was a young child, i yearned for my first two wheel bycicle. in my teens i wanted to save up to buy the neatest new record. nearly 17 years ago, my main objective was to be the best mother i could possibly be to my newborn daughter. these days i want one more christmas with my children. i also want the pain to go away. not all the pain is physical, this is wearing down my mind, my emotions as well.

and yes, i want to give my children the memories of one last christmas, complete with tree and decorations. then i would be more than happy to lay down to go to sleep and just not wake up. as selfish as i know that sounds, it would suit me just fine.

and no, i do not think i deserve any special reward. and i only look forward to the one thing i know for certain is mine for the taking - death - .

here’s to hoping ya’ll feel holy and righteous now.
i feel sick and need to go and lie down.

P.S. if it is of any consolation, i am not and have never been catholic so in your eyes i am going to hell anyways. and in mine, the faster the better. 🤷 **
 
Angel: I’m so glad that you have found a pain management clinic and will be able to go and, hopefully, get the help you so desperately need. Good luck to you.
I can understand how you must be feeling about your children and Christmas. It’s so hard on them. I know I had a huge problem with Christmas and my boys were still very small when my Mom passed. Even today my children understand that Christmas is still hard even though my Mom passed away in 1969. Losing a parent is something you can never really get over but you just have to move forward.
Good luck to you and your family.
**my thoughts are with you in having lost your mother and isn’t it wonderful the magic that a child brings into your life 🙂

actually, a pain clinic just opened recently in the city nearest to where i live now. before the closest one was Toronto which is several hours away, a close to impossible trip for me to make at this point.

my doctor already has the referral in to the clinic, i was told at my last appointmnet (last friday) that i should be hearing from them soon to setup an initial appointment.
i am very much looking forward to this appointment because i really do need some other form of pain management than just the massive amount of prescription drugs i now take (and have taken for several years) that are actually harmful to some of my existing conditions. :eek:

unfortunately for me, the medication is the only thing that is allowing me to even get up from bed and move about at a limited pace through the days (and often alot of nights) right now.

i am very anxious to see what they have to suggest to better my way of life from what it is now. 👍

the saddest part about skipping the christmas celebration is that i am seeing in my children that it is having an adverse affect. the last two years, my youngest daughter has cut out a small cardboard tree and set it in the family room. it hurts so much more to know i am hurting her 😦
yesterday i called my doctor and asked to be put on anti-depressants so they will have built up in my system by christmas and after that i went to the community mental building and put my name on the waiting list to talk to a councillor.

i am determined to break the pattern of recurring grief that i have been going through for the last 5 years. i really do want to, and am looking foward to decorating the house with my children this december 👍**
 
angeltrae,

no one can say anyone is going to hell. its not up to anyone to determine that. if someone tells you your going to hell, well they aint got no right to judge you. period. i certainly wont. i will pray for you yes, but judge you? no. God loves you. believe it or not, He really does. He loves us all.
 
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