A sin to pay to see a movie with nudity?

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Mayo said:
THanks Markstorm.
You got the point

What I quoted from the Sixth and Ninth commandments is how it was exactly worded in the Catholic Catechesm in Ireland when I went to school there. What I said is what we were taught. You can go on the Web and put in Nudeity and the Catholic Church and you will find it in there that it really is not right to look at Nude Pictures or Nude Art.
Doctors are desencetised as students by working on dead people so that when they are Doctors they do not see the Nude body the same way as the general population. does.
Remember when we die there is no justafication or ratafication. WE did it or we did not.

Life is short Eternity is forever.

Mayo
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I’d still like to hear your view on the nudity in the Sistine Chapel and other parts of the Vatican.
 
bluehen said:
I’d still like to hear your view on the nudity in the Sistine Chapel and other parts of the Vatican.
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Or the Passion of the Christ. or looking at the Stations of the Cross. or a Crucifix.

Jesus was topless in each instance!! :eek:

What about cultures where a woman’s unclothed face is considered nudity? If you peeked, you sinned…

That’s why lust is defined and is THE factor to consider. Unless someone can get 6,000,000,000 + people to agree on what nudity is, you will go mad loking at bare hands and faces for the rest of your life.

Some common sense and perspective go a long way.
 
PeteZaHut said:
Is it wrong to pay to see a movie with nudity?
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If you’re watching the movie to get a “justified” peak, yes, it is a sin. If it’s a decent movie that happens to have a nude scene, no, it’s not.
 
Since I replyed to this question before I was surfing the Web and found somthing that really surprized me.
I found an article by Shane Steinkamp called Naturist Philosophy and it comes under the heading. Modesty, Decency, Dignity, Chastity and Nudity.
Here is a couple of things he says. It is not a sin for catholics to go to a Nude Beach or Camp. God would not mind people going to Church Nude but Grandma might have a Heart Attack. God made cloths for Adam & Eve not because they were naked but because they were out of the Garden of Eden and they were cold He bases that on when When God asked them who told you you were naked since there was no one else there.
Towards the end he says before you start writing to me and say I am twisting things to suit myself. The late Pope John Paul the Second in his Book Covenant of Love says Nudity in and of itself is not a sin. It is the Concupisence that is wrong.
Steinkamp says the church taught that nudity is a sin to control the masses.
According to this I was wrong with my last reply but then what about all looks contrary to Holy Purity?
The easy to find this article. Go on Google and put in.
Naturist Philosophy and the Catholic Church.
I would like feedback on this from anyone who knows more about it than I do.

Mayo
 
I would vote no, but a lot would depend on the content. I thought that Schindler’s List (about the Holocaust) was on the Vatican’s list of movies that people should see. There was a lot of nudity in that movie, but they just were trying to show the reality of the situation.
 
He_Man said:
Or the Passion of the Christ. or looking at the Stations of the Cross. or a Crucifix.

Jesus was topless in each instance!! :eek:
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Jesus was openly displayed on the cross.
However by tradition we never represent this in sacred art.
 
Bluehen
In light of what I have read since my first reply. it looks like it is not a sin to look at the Art work in the Cistine Chapel. However I did read the other day where one Pope had some of it covered because he felt it was too explicit.
From what I understand as long as the Nude person or picture is not made an object of arousal or lust it is not a sin In other words looked at as a work of beauty or art created by God.
Back in Ireland in those days Religion was taught with Fire and Brimstone. They scared the life out of us.
WWW.Catholic Planet.com Talks about all of this. They cover everything. to do with Faith & Morals.

Mayo
 
Since my previous posts I have been reading quite a lot about nudity. One is Christopher West and Nudity He writes about the Cystine Chapel and that is enlightening… On that same web Link There is an article by Jim Seghers called Thelogy of the Body an Overview. It is very good reading.
In the article about The Cistine Chapel It is not a sin as long as a person does not get aroused. If they do they should look away and they say the person needs a transformation…They only talk about looking at nude Art. They do not say anything about Nudity in movies or Photographs. I have read where Porn. and nude movies are geared to cause the viewer to get aroused. which is a sin.

Mayo
 
latinmasslover said:
If you’re watching the movie to get a “justified” peak, yes, it is a sin. If it’s a decent movie that happens to have a nude scene, no, it’s not.
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I’m with this. If one of the reasons you elect to go see it is the nudity, it’s sinful. If you think you may be aroused, you should avoid the occasion of sin. But looking at nudity in itself is not automatically a sin.
 
There was a time during the Golden age of film that great movies didnt have nudity or sex. They still became great movies. The Sistine chapel shows nudity in a way that can not equal the erotic nature a movie does. Movies and magazines portray real living people nude or having sex so they take on a lot more erotic nature then say a painting of Adam and Eve. I like to take the notion I heard once in another forum. If your mother or sister or brother father etc were on film in the nude or having sex, would you watch it or be glad others are watching them and possibly lusting over them? I wouldnt pay to see a film with nudity or sex in it. I would rather avoid the near occasion of sin and watch something else.
 
I posted a reply where I said it was a sin to look at nude pictures no matter what the reason. Since then I have read an Article by Christopher WEst entiteled Body Language: Comentry on the Intersection of Faith, Sex, & Culture. Authentic Art vs Pornography.
Here is a Paragraph from the Article.
Those who beleive it"s always improper to portray the Naked body in art - and think it holy or " Catholic" to do so _ simply cannot justify their position after touring the Vatican. It would be impossible to count the number of depictions of nakedness in St. Peter"s Basilica and the Vatican Museum. If yuo’ve ever been to Rome, you may have noticed the juxtaposition of the nude art within the Vatican and the nudity on the billboards just outside the Vatican. The difference vividly illustrates the distincion between pornography and a respectful portrayal of the body in art.
You can go on Yahoo and put in Christopher West & Nudity and the first page says welcome to Christopher West Web Page. Click on that and this whole article is there.

I hope that will answer your question.

Mayo.
 
Bluehen Thanks for your interest. Since I replied originaly I have taken the time and read Christopher West’s article entiteled.
Body Language.
Commentry on the Intersection of Faith, Sex, & Culture.
Authentic Art vs Pornography
I now understand that it is only when used for arousal and self grtafication and used as an object that it is a sin.
Pope John Paul II did a wonderful thing when he showed us how to look at the naked body as a holy thing created by God and not as somthing shamful or sinful. The Human body is not inherently pornographic it is inherently theo - graphic.
To the pure all things are pure, but to the impure nothing is pure.
To everyone that I upset I am Sorry. If I had known this information before i would not have replied the way I did.
But like I said back in Ireland in those days everything to do with looking at nudity was a sin. It was never explained to us that it was not a sin if you did not get arroused or that the naked body in and of itself is beautifull.
It is said that if a person gets arroused while looking at the art in the Sistine Chapel they should look away and that should tell them they are in need of a serious transformation.

Mayo.
 
Unless I’ve seen the movie once before, I usually don’t know if there’s nudity in the film until I see it. But then, I gravitate towards horror and action movies rather then romantic comedies that are basically just about boinking and portraying a very unreal view of relationships.

Sorry…started to go on a rant there 😛

Anyways, being female the nudity in movies rarely bothers me because I’m straight. And while a topless man is nice to look at, I never really cross the line into lust. Honestly, I don’t get stimulated sexually by frivilious expressions of sexuality. To me it’s like playing a beautiful music piece out of tune, if it’s not an expression of love, then it’s just filling until the next scene.
 
Malcolm_McLean said:
Jesus was openly displayed on the cross.
However by tradition we never represent this in sacred art.
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is that really true?? i always thought jesus garments was on his waist when he was crucified… surely the roman soldiers left the people they crucified with some dignity
 
Renton405 said:
is that really true?? i always thought jesus garments was on his waist when he was crucified… surely the roman soldiers left the people they crucified with some dignity
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Surely not. My understanding is that crucification was done on naked victims. Loss of dignity in all sorts of ways was an intentional part of the execution.
 
Didn’t God create man and woman naked? Why should nudity be considered evil, if disassociated from lust?

That said, most film portrayals of nudity are meant to be arousing. Notice it’s always the attractive young women who get nude? But of course nudity can be portrayed in an unsinful way…
 
I avoid movies with nudity in them because I used to view porn for many years and I am sensitive to looking at nudity. But I will say i agree with you JGmes2001. Except for a movie like “Schindler’s List”, movies with nudity usually involve sex and the actors or actresses are young. So obviously it is meant to be stimulating to the viewer. Surely some of us are more strong of will to view some movies while other movies I wouldnt recommend to anybody. My personal opinion, I could never do a nude scene in front of others. my personal belief is it should be shown to your spouse, not everybody and their mother. I always thought that was what we were taught
 
Jim C. Cunningham has written a Book called Nudity & Christianity. It is a well written Book and informative. & explains everything from Adam & Eve through to the present day on Nudity.

Anyone with questions about Nudity should read it.

He is a devout practicing Catholic.

Mayo
 
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