A thought experiment on poverty

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I found this question on another thread and thought it would be worth making seperate thread about it. So which outcome would you prefer?

Of course, I would choose the former as my own beliefs are utilitarian.
This doesn’t make sense-

you have to say WHY the society has no poverty- if the society has no poverty because everyone is productive and prosperous, that’s great. If the society has no poverty because the government controls everything and everyone, then that’s not so great.
 
How many do not have access to health care besides the emergency room?
How many have access but would rather pay for Comcast and get superb ER care rather than no cable and the average citizen’s expensive appointments.
 
How many have access but would rather pay for Comcast and get superb ER care rather than no cable and the average citizen’s expensive appointments.
Many… but I do not expect people to act rationally. Nor do I believe that people are autonomous as you believe they are.
 
Personally sovern, not significantly influenced by irrational passions.
Sovern? Not a word. :confused:

You really need to get out more. Most people should be autonomous (able to live independently). Why wouldn’t they be? There are some that wouldn’t have that ability…but very, very few.
 
Sovern? Not a word. :confused:

You really need to get out more. Most people should be autonomous (able to live independently). Why wouldn’t they be? There are some that wouldn’t have that ability…but very, very few.
meant to type sovereign,
 
Personally sovern, not significantly influenced by irrational passions.
Hmmmm… I think you are referring to people who make stupid decisions that jeopardize their financial standing. Drug addiction, overspending, and poor family planning (referring to Holy Matrimony, not planned parenthood), are things the government has little power to control. The U.S. gov has nearly completely accounted for the poverty due to classism by way of massive entitlements. Ultimately, the rest is up to society to fix these grievances itself. This is highly unlikely, and therefore so is the eventual end to poverty.
 
meant to type sovereign,
Ah…I may have figured that out…if it made sense. In 99.9999% (and that may be a little generous) of normal usage, you wouldn’t refer to a person as being “sovereign.” Independent or self-reliant would be a more appropriate term.

Regardless, my earlier comment still applies. There is only a very small percentage of the population that are not be able to live independently.
 
Nor do I believe that people are autonomous as you believe they are.
I believe we see here another key to this viewpoint.

The belief that people are not responsible for their own actions.

Of course, now we have to figure out who or what is controlling us all…:rolleyes:
 
I believe we see here another key to this viewpoint.

The belief that people are not responsible for their own actions.

Of course, now we have to figure out who or what is controlling us all…:rolleyes:
The lad has now stumbled and fallen flat over the question no proponent of nannyism can answer:
“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” “Who watches the watchmen?” - Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347
“If Man is not Fit to Govern Himself, How can He be Fit to Govern Someone Else?” - James Madison
If people are not independent and capable of controlling their own lives, who is capable of governing them? Are not the governors also people? And just as flawed and incapable as those they govern?
 
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