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stephe1987
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Sorry, but more Christians were killed/martyred for refusing to leave their faith and turn to atheism/communism in the 20th century, than all war deaths (religious and non-religious) from the previous 19 centuries combined.
And people who think religion = war have a very poor (at best) understanding of history. Only 13% of the wars in the last 2,000 years had anything to do with religion. In U.S. history, only the “war on terror” has even the slightest to do with religion (terrorists happened to be Islam extremists), the rest were for political reasons. Whether or not the people involved in the war happened to practice a religion is irrelevant because religion was not the reason for the war (to say otherwise would be to make a category mistake).
So taking out religion would not take away wars, just a small percentage of them, i.e. 87% of the wars would have still occurred even if everyone was non-religious.
And the “Hitler was a Catholic” thing is silly… it’s like those politicians who say they’re Catholic and then repeatedly vote against Church teachings (i.e. “abortion rights”). If you think the the teachings are wrong, then you shouldn’t call yourself Catholic because according to you Catholicism isn’t true anyway! Why on Earth anyone would want to associate themselves with something they believe to be false is beyond me…
I would also like to point out the obvious: look at how far the moral code has declined in the last 50-60 years, when Church attendance has rapidly declined and the media constantly promotes anti-Christian teachings. People constantly use each other. Divorce rates are through the roof. Fatherlessness is an epidemic. Some people are “serial monogamists” who either never marry at all or they divorce and remarry so much that it makes marriage seem like a joke. STDs are growing at an alarming rate, and chlamydia, for example, isn’t responding to treatments as well as it used to. Yeah, the HIV/AIDS cases may have declined, but the “less serious” ones are steadily increasing with an estimated 2/3 to 3/4 of sexually active young people 15-24 either have or used to have some sort of STD. I think when you remove God from society, people start to lose their moral code. For many people, no God means no reason to not be selfish. My generation is probably the biggest group of narcissists the world has ever seen, and I don’t see much hope for future generations if we don’t turn things around.
And even if there is no religion, at the very least teach people to respect themselves and respect others. Something that is severely lacking these days.
And people who think religion = war have a very poor (at best) understanding of history. Only 13% of the wars in the last 2,000 years had anything to do with religion. In U.S. history, only the “war on terror” has even the slightest to do with religion (terrorists happened to be Islam extremists), the rest were for political reasons. Whether or not the people involved in the war happened to practice a religion is irrelevant because religion was not the reason for the war (to say otherwise would be to make a category mistake).
So taking out religion would not take away wars, just a small percentage of them, i.e. 87% of the wars would have still occurred even if everyone was non-religious.
And the “Hitler was a Catholic” thing is silly… it’s like those politicians who say they’re Catholic and then repeatedly vote against Church teachings (i.e. “abortion rights”). If you think the the teachings are wrong, then you shouldn’t call yourself Catholic because according to you Catholicism isn’t true anyway! Why on Earth anyone would want to associate themselves with something they believe to be false is beyond me…
I would also like to point out the obvious: look at how far the moral code has declined in the last 50-60 years, when Church attendance has rapidly declined and the media constantly promotes anti-Christian teachings. People constantly use each other. Divorce rates are through the roof. Fatherlessness is an epidemic. Some people are “serial monogamists” who either never marry at all or they divorce and remarry so much that it makes marriage seem like a joke. STDs are growing at an alarming rate, and chlamydia, for example, isn’t responding to treatments as well as it used to. Yeah, the HIV/AIDS cases may have declined, but the “less serious” ones are steadily increasing with an estimated 2/3 to 3/4 of sexually active young people 15-24 either have or used to have some sort of STD. I think when you remove God from society, people start to lose their moral code. For many people, no God means no reason to not be selfish. My generation is probably the biggest group of narcissists the world has ever seen, and I don’t see much hope for future generations if we don’t turn things around.
And even if there is no religion, at the very least teach people to respect themselves and respect others. Something that is severely lacking these days.