See, I can offer evidence for each of those positions- in some case overwhelming evidence. I recall, awhile back, reading some pretty serious evidence that your subconscious “decides” what you’re going to do a good bit before the brain knows- which would appear to suggest that the thoughts are taking orders from the subconscious.
You mean you didn’t like it, right?
For your metaphor to be apt, you’d need to demonstrate objective morality the same way one would demonstrate the toxicity of arsenic. So I didn’t mean to imply that we should categorically discount non-empirical evidence, but it’s required to keep your analogy consistent.
No, I definitely liked the idea and was reluctant to abandon it. It’s definitely incredibly tempting to believe that the maker of the universe had you in mind.
Well, there you go. You believe in objective morality.
No. Your acknowledgement that this father is wrong even if he believes it is right, is a statement of objective morality, Brad.
Of course. Reasons are very important.
No. I reject that supernatural being just like you do.
Ah. Okey dokey then.
Interesting. So there’s no heaven to go to or gehenna to be flung in to? No rules placed upon humans by the divine? No omniscient/omnipotent creator?
I didn’t say I reject heaven or hell. I just reject the same idea of god that you reject.
No it’s not. I just happen to be agreeing with you on this matter. If the father refused to allow his daughter to have an abortion without which she would die, then…
And I’m asking which bit of it your reject
All of it as you’ve presented it.
That actually made me spit out my milk.
You reject the whole, but I doubt you reject each part- which was my question. You’ve indicated you don’t reject the heaven/hell bit (not that you explicitly said that, so sorry if I’ve miscast you) , which in all honesty is probably the most important for the spiritual dictatorship argument.
What you have presented is nothing close to what Christianity proclaims. It’s a pornographized version of it.
These are my words. It is all better described in the Catechism, which you would do well to review since you are rejecting it. The way it works is something like this:
It’s being described in terms you don’t like, but that doesn’t make it inaccurate- although I agree I was being colloquial.
Using pornographic terms to describe your lovemaking wouldn’t be inaccurate either.
Pretty much.
I reject this, just as you do.
The first three commandments all pertain to how we are to praise the spiritual overlord- hardly the first thing I’d put in any such guide. The next 5 have been independently arrived at all over the place, and the final two are fairly trivial. And clearly these commandments weren’t absolute, as there was much killing and thieving of land by the order of the law giver yet to come.
What do you mean by “deity”? There exists such overwhelming beauty! Your use of “d” indicates you don’t have a clue. Pray!