Abortion and infallibility

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This debate/argument, is it with a family member or friend (someone who is a part of your daily life) or is it an internet com box debate?
 
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I recently came across someone claiming that the churches definition and teachings on abortion historically refute infallibility.
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Your examples (assumed to be accurate) don’t in fact refute infallibility because while popes did express a position on abortion regarding quickening it was never infallibly taught (different than infallibly proclaimed). Since the church has never held that her popes could not be mistaken, pointing to mistakes does not conflict with what the church believes. I don’t know what is in the Apostolic Constitutions, but here are comments by some of the early Fathers:

What sense does it make to think of us as murderers when we say that women who practice abortion are murderers and will render account to God for abortion? (Athenagoras - 133-190 AD)

The woman who has deliberately destroyed [her fetus] is subject to the penalty for murder. And among us there is no fine distinction between a completely formed and unformed [embryo]. (Basis of Caesarea - 330-379 AD)
 
I challenged some 40 non denominationals to give me a single inconsistency in church history. I know it’s not a great use of my time but it’s been fun researching and debunking them as they come.
 
I was actually able to find a pdf of the apostolic constitutions, and the only mention of abortion in the entire thing was a blanket ban of it. I didn’t find that until after I’d made the thread though.
 
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