Abortion and Nuremburg

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Suppose that in the future a pro-life government were to come to power. What should happen in that situation to those responsible for the aborticaust (abortionists and their political enablers)?
 
“Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3.”
 
Timothysis said:
“Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3.”
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I think it’s fairly safe to say that if a determinedly pro-life government of the sort devoutchristian is speaking of ever comes to power in the United States, it won’t be on the back of the Constitution.
 
Timothysis said:
“Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3.”
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And even under our current Constitution they could theoretically be barred from holding certain offices and could be subjected to wrongful death suits.
 
sw85 said:
I think it’s fairly safe to say that if a determinedly pro-life government of the sort devoutchristian is speaking of ever comes to power in the United States, it won’t be on the back of the Constitution.
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Exactly.
 
**To answer the OP’s question I would give the abortionist butchers (these people aren’t doctors) life in a working camp prison. I would have them working from sun up to sun down, chipping rock and swinging a pickax or I would make them do maintenance work under police/military supervision. I wouldn’t have a death penalty, just working camps. I would ensure that they are fed and have time and a place to sleep and bathe, however it wouldn’t be a posh prison. It wouldn’t be inhumane to the point of a nazi working camp, however the labor would be intensive and forced. **
 
mymamamary said:
**To answer the OP’s question I would give the abortionist butchers (these people aren’t doctors) life in a working camp prison. I would have them working from sun up to sun down, chipping rock and swinging a pickax or I would make them do maintenance work under police/military supervision. I wouldn’t have a death penalty, just working camps. I would ensure that they are fed and have time and a place to sleep and bathe, however it wouldn’t be a posh prison. It wouldn’t be inhumane to the point of a nazi working camp, however the labor would be intensive and forced. **
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Forced labor. That’s something I hadn’t thought of. Obviously they should get Sundays and HDO’s off, but it sounds like a good idea.
 
I can’t see imprisoning or fining someone for doing something that was legal at the time, though I think that many abortionists and doctors who reccomend abortions do so dishonestly and probably are already breaking the law.

For example, my step-mother’s sister, who is intellectually deficient and has been on public aid for most of her life, became pregnant unexpectantly and went to some clinic doctor who insisted her baby was going to die and her organs were on the outside of her body. This “diagnosis” was done around her second month, which I’m told is far too early in order to detect that on a sonogram. The doctor gave her a lot of pressure to have an abortion because of these alleged deformities.

Fortunately, she chose to get a second opinon. (Which is difficult when you can’t afford to pay for the first one.) Her daughter was born healthy and with all of her organs intact and conventionally positioned. I think this “doctor” deserves to be prosecuted, even if he wouldn’t have performed the abortion himself.
 
True, but I wonder if they were actually legal. I know they were allowed and ordered by the government, but I somehow doubt that German law actually allowed a great majority of what they did. I’m not that familiar with how they decided who should be punished and how and what standards they used to determine this. Obviously, not all the people involved in Nazism were sentenced to anything. When you consider all of the soldiers and businessmen involved and all the citizens who turned their neighbors in and were completely complacent, relatively few people actually faced prosecution. I wonder how they decided who they would go after. I suspect they singled out people who they thought were powerful enough that they could sabotague the effort to end Nazism and bring about peace. I’m not sure what the equivilant of that would be in the abortion crisis. Maybe the president of Planned Parenthood?
 
Allegra said:
True, but I wonder if they were actually legal. I know they were allowed and ordered by the government, but I somehow doubt that German law actually allowed a great majority of what they did. I’m not that familiar with how they decided who should be punished and how and what standards they used to determine this. Obviously, not all the people involved in Nazism were sentenced to anything. When you consider all of the soldiers and businessmen involved and all the citizens who turned their neighbors in and were completely complacent, relatively few people actually faced prosecution. I wonder how they decided who they would go after. I suspect they singled out people who they thought were powerful enough that they could sabotague the effort to end Nazism and bring about peace. I’m not sure what the equivilant of that would be in the abortion crisis. Maybe the president of Planned Parenthood?
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The rule was that people who were actively involved in or ordering murders were prosecuted. So the American equivalent of that would be abortionists and their political enablers. Women who had abortions couldn’t be prosecuted because of the sheer logistical mess that that would be.
 
sw85 said:
I think it’s fairly safe to say that if a determinedly pro-life government of the sort devoutchristian is speaking of ever comes to power in the United States, it won’t be on the back of the Constitution.
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And that’s what is truly frightening. It is a puzzlement to think that some who are supposedly so “devoted” to the Church would create a society that would eat itself.
 
devoutchristian said:
Indeed. Any document that can be determined by a 7-2 majority to support crimes against humanity can’t be that great.
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And what would YOU replace it with? Reading through the options in your poll tells me that you would create a fascist regime as soon as possible.
 
Timothysis said:
And that’s what is truly frightening. It is a puzzlement to think that some who are supposedly so “devoted” to the Church would create a society that would eat itself.
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You’re right. Secularism is quite frightening, especially when professed by those who claim to be Catholic.
Timothysis said:
And you would replace it with what? Do you already have your Catholic King waiting in the corner?
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A Catholic republic or technocracy.
 
Timothysis said:
And what would YOU replace it with? Reading through the options in your poll tells me that you would create a fascist regime as soon as possible.
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I absolutely despise fascism, just as I despise all ideologies that are opposed to the Church. If I liked fascism or pro-deathism, I wouldn’t support the prosecution of those who carry such perverted ideologies into practice.
 
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