Abortion Arguments

[christmary4ever]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We
should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said
that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

 

[twb1621]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We
should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said
that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

No one can impose ethics or morality on anyone who does not wish to possess them. However, abortion once placed in the courts became a public matter and we as Christians should not and do not support the taking of human life for any reason let alone the convenience of another who lacked discretion or self respect to begin with. This in addition to the fact that whether a person believes in God or not doesn’t change anything, they will still answer to Him when the time comes.

A person who is sincerely repentant for having an abortion can certainly be comforted by the Divine Mercy and Forgiveness of our Lord but to continue to claim such an act acceptable is self condemning.

Thus says the LORD,

“…Your redeemer, who formed you from the womb: I am the LORD, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens; when I spread out the earth, who was with me?” (Isaiah Ch 44: 24)

 

[Spirithound]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

Slap her. Then tell her not to impose her ethics on you.

Don’t actually slap her
Laws are intended to protect us. The unborn need our protection too. I think you would also be able to contest the idea that no one is forced into abortion.

 

[rstegeman]

Pregnancy, at a minimum, affects three people. The mother, father and the child. Remove any one of those pieces and there is no pregnancy. Therefore, it is not a private matter.

Plastic surgery is a private matter, but plastic surgery doesn’t have a life or death effect on another person.

 

[Tantum_ergo]

She has made the error of considering abortion a ‘religious’ issue, and further erred in considering religion a matter of relativism or indifferentism.

The truth is that abortion is a human rights issue. Do we deny the human right to life to an entire category of people based on another group’s** arbitrary** decision to kill that first group?

 

[Transformer]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We
should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said
that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of how civil laws work.

There is absolutely no contesting that every abortion kills an individual living human being; it is simply a biological fact. Now, let’s say that I believe I have the right to kill black people whenever I want to. How is it that society can impose others’ moral or religious beliefs on me by making it illegal for me to kill black people? Let’s say I believe Jews do not have the same rights that other living human beings have, and that I have a fundamental right to kill them. How can society legislate others’ moral and religious beliefs by making it illegal for me to kill Jews? Let’s say I believe that caretakers of severely disabled individuals have to right to euthanize them if they want to. How can society force others’ beliefs on those caretakers by making it illegal for them to kill the people who are entirely dependent on them for life?

No; society has no choice but to protect all living human individuals’ right to live. The law telling a radical KKK member that he can’t murder black people is no less a legislation of others’ moral beliefs than telling a doctor tor a pregnant woman that she can’t kill a living human individual with certain characteristics. Moral beliefs are forced on us by society all the time to protect the innocent. Either you support all such laws or no such laws, anything else is a contradiction.

 

[tm30]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We
should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said
that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

Because first and foremost, it’s a violation of the natural law written on every man’s heart. A total atheist has it written on his heart, too, so blaming it on religion is just a strawman.

We, as Catholics are blessed to understand the profound relationship of God with humanity, so, we have much MUCH greater culpability in forming our moral conscience and being steadfast in opposition to this atrocity.

But shoving off abortion as a “private” matter is no different than arguing that it should be legal to murder a man in the privacy of your own home.

 

[1ke]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We should not impose our ethics on anyone .

Abortion is a matter of justice to those who are murdered by its perpetration. Baby killing is a very public matter. Basic human rights are the foundation of what society and government are formed to protect.

Furthermore She said that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

It is forced on every baby that is killed in the procedure.

Society is liable for the protection the weak and defenseless.

Need we remind her that concentration camps and the execution of Jews was perfectly legal in Germany? Society had an obligation to prevent and stop the killing. We do too.

 

[Transformer]

-Mispost-

 

[Apryl]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

I think that you should respond to this person directly, as soon as they make these comments. Whoever that person may be.

While society shouldn’t cater to any religious ideology, we do that all the time. That’s why we have marriage, laws about theft of property, and other related legal statutes on local, state and the federal level.

Abortion is a very private matter. But the problem is, all of the parties involved in this private matter are not allowed to speak, so someone else needs to speak for the one that is currently silent.

Or, you could wait until all parties could speak up and articulate their thoughts on the abortion, but that wouldn’t be an abortion, would it?

 

[yellowbicycle]

Tell your friend that she is absolutely right - that we should not force our beliefs on another person.
Then remind her that the unborn baby IS a person, and when a mother decides that baby is not worthy of life, SHE has imposed HER beliefs onto that person.
So, really, saying that you should not impose your beliefs on another person is an argument FOR the pro-life side, not against it.

Also, and I don’t have time to dig up the sources for this now, women who have had abortions versus women in crisis pregnancies who kept or placed their baby for adoption, are something like seven times as likely to commit suicide.
There are other troubling statistics, too, about what abortion does to a woman’s mental health.

So, why should we allow a procedure which, by its nature, leaves one dead and one injured? isn’t that simply irresponsible? What other medical procedure is allowed that would leave one dead and one injured? At some point, this is a public health issue, a women’s health issue.

If we really care about a woman’s health, we’d outlaw abortion.

 

[puzzleannie]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We
should not impose our ethics on anyone . Furthermore She said
that Abortion is not forced on anyone. and that society is not liable to cater to any religious ideology. How shall we respond to this?

does she feel the same way about murder? grand theft? rape? those crimes certainly are forced upon ;their victims, they are not private matters, and abortion is most certainly forced upon the most innocent helpless victims of all.

Ask her if twenty doctors swore in court that her 3 year old child was a danger to her health would she pay to have it killed?

why not forget all about religious ideology and read the Constitution of the United States FCOL

 

[christmary4ever]

does she feel the same way about murder? grand theft? rape? those crimes certainly are forced upon ;their victims, they are not private matters, and abortion is most certainly forced upon the most innocent helpless victims of all.

Ask her if twenty doctors swore in court that her 3 year old child was a danger to her health would she pay to have it killed?

why not forget all about religious ideology and read the Constitution of the United States FCOL

Thanks for your insight.

 Now there are also the argument that we PRO-LIFE  are anti-Women

and that abortion is tragically neccessary because some people
are just incapable of being good parents. and that she said that no one has the right to tell/order her what to do with her own
body.

 

[demol]

Thanks for your insight.

 Now there are also the argument that we PRO-LIFE  are anti-Women

and that abortion is tragically neccessary because some people
are just incapable of being good parents. and that she said that no one has the right to tell/order her what to do with her own
body.

Regarding the argument that some people are incapable of being good parents, I would remind her that there are many, many couples that are waiting to adopt a child.

 

[Sean_Boyle]

Thanks for your insight.

Now there are also the argument that we PRO-LIFE are anti-Women
and that abortion is tragically neccessary because some people
are just incapable of being good parents. and that she said that no one has the right to tell/order her what to do with her own
body.

Half the babies that are killed are women. How can anyone be more anti-women.

Bad parenting. Why kill a child because your not sure that you can be a good parent? Don’t you think a person can overcome bad parenting and still be valuable to society?

 

[christmary4ever]

Half the babies that are killed are women. How can anyone be more anti-women.

Bad parenting. Why kill a child because your not sure that you can be a good parent? Don’t you think a person can overcome bad parenting and still be valuable to society?

Thanks, Now a lady told me that she HATES ABORTION, BUT
respects the choice of women to decide.because it is there body.
I disagree with her but she is still uncovinced.

 

[Transformer]

abortion is tragically neccessary because some people
are just incapable of being good parents.

The argument that abortion is justified when the child will likely face abuse or neglect is extremely weak, because it applies equally well to children who have already been born. A two year old in a bad family is likely to face abuse for many years in the future; have you ever heard a pro-choice person advocate the legality of killing two year olds?

and that she said that no one has the right to tell/order her what to do with her own body.

It’s not her body. Let me repeat that: it’s not her body. Abortion does not kill the body of the mother, it kills the body of another living human individual. That’s an objective biological fact. That child’s body may be attached to the mother’s, and it may be physically sustained by it, but it is not a part of it.

 

[christmary4ever]

The argument that abortion is justified when the child will likely face abuse or neglect is extremely weak, because it applies equally well to children who have already been born. A two year old in a bad family is likely to face abuse for many years in the future; have you ever heard a pro-choice person advocate the legality of killing two year olds?

It’s not her body. Let me repeat that: it’s not her body. Abortion does not kill the body of the mother, it kills the body of another living human individual. That’s an objective biological fact. That child’s body may be attached to the mother’s, and it may be physically sustained by it, but it is not a part of it.

Thank You.
Now How can we persuade people to oppose abortion actively
if they claim it does not affect their lives and Economic issues
are more crucial in selecting a candidate. It seems that they
believe that the woman who commit abortion is liable to
God and they have no involvement on it.

 

[Blade_and_Blood]

Being Pro-Life does not always have to be a religious view. It’s only fair, isn’t it?

It should be about morals. Every action has a reaction; it’s not about the situation, it’s about how you deal with it. There are so many arguments against what your friend said.

But subjects like these are the types that are never-ending and often redundant.

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood

 

[marci]

Someone told me that Abortion is a private matter and We

should not impose our ethics on anyone .