Abortion, assisted suicide, murder are not immoral

[vera_dicere]

I would wager the person being murdered and the family of the murdered victim might disagree with the OP.

As others have said, God has made it pretty gosh darn clear on His thoughts on the matter of humans taking life.

Death is not immoral.

But taking it upon our mortal selves to cause it, is.

 

[jpk1313]

My argument is that death does not exist so things like abortion, assisted suicide, murder are not immoral becuse since there is no such thing as death they do not really exist. The law given to moses thou shalt not kill, is not really about death and more about maintaning social order. Things like murder, war ect, cause life to be more difficult and this is what is immoral but death is not becuse it does not exist and if you think it does you do not really belive in what jesus said see john 3:16.

 

[Hanael]

These things are not immoral or at least not grave sins. Humans are created in the image of God and God can not die so it follows that since (if scripture is to be belived) we are created in the image god we to can not die, therefore death is not real and if death is not real than it is pointless to debate the morality of abortion, assisted suicide ext, since they do not really exist. it is like debateing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

I agree with how abortion and assisted suicide are not immoral but for different reasons than what you stated. I view murder as immoral and murder is immoral and loads of countries so it’s not an inherently Catholic thing to view.

 

[LilyM]

My argument is that death does not exist so things like abortion, assisted suicide, murder are not immoral becuse since there is no such thing as death they do not really exist. The law given to moses thou shalt not kill, is not really about death and more about maintaning social order. Things like murder, war ect, cause life to be more difficult and this is what is immoral but death is not becuse it does not exist and if you think it does you do not really belive in what jesus said see john 3:16.

Of course there exists such a thing as death - Christ’s experience on the cross serves no purpose and makes absolutely no sense otherwise.

Christ saves the righteous from death, as He does from damnation, but that doesn’t mean that either death or damnation never existed or have ceased to exist. As an analogy, I might have a bodyguard who pushes me out of the way of an assassin’s bullet and so saves me from dying. The fact that he saves me doesn’t mean the bullet wasn’t and isn’t a real one!

Tell me - when Christ utters the saying ‘I will raise him up on the last day’, what exactly is it that he is promising to raise us up FROM?

The law given to Moses is not really about death, but about social order? With all due respect, so what.

The fact is God commanded us not to kill, indicated that to do so is gravely immoral (for whatever reason). The fact remains that He has never rescinded that commandment or indicated that murder has ceased in any way to be gravely immoral. On the contrary, Jesus reconfirmed that commandment (and hence the grave immorality of murder) to the rich young man, along with all the other nine.