Abortion because of severe health issues

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I read a story about a woman who had an abortion because the baby wouldn’t live but a few moments after birth, dying after gasping for air. Assuming this is true, what is a compassionate response? Obviously it is wrong to intentionally kill the child via an abortion. After the child is born I would assume doctors could do what they can to try and alleviate the baby’s suffering. However, the pro-abortion side takes the approach that an abortion would be better to save the mother having to carry a child to term only to watch her child die. To them, they are thinking of the psychological effect to the mother. What is the best way to approach the situation?
 
regression said:
I read a story about a woman who had an abortion because the baby wouldn’t live* but a few moments after birth, dying after gasping for air. Assuming this is true, what is a compassionate response? Obviously it is wrong to intentionally kill the child via an abortion. After the child is born I would assume doctors could do what they can to try and alleviate the baby’s suffering.* However, the pro-abortion side takes the approach that an abortion would be better to save the mother having to carry a child to term only to watch her child die. To them, they are thinking of the psychological effect to the mother. What is the best way to approach the situation?
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That’s why we have the ***born alive infant protection act
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regression said:
I read a story about a woman who had an abortion because the baby wouldn’t live but a few moments after birth, dying after gasping for air. Assuming this is true, what is a compassionate response? Obviously it is wrong to intentionally kill the child via an abortion. After the child is born I would assume doctors could do what they can to try and alleviate the baby’s suffering. However, the pro-abortion side takes the approach that an abortion would be better to save the mother having to carry a child to term only to watch her child die. To them, they are thinking of the psychological effect to the mother. What is the best way to approach the situation?
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Side with LIFE.
Show compassion for the child.
There’s nothing compassionate about encourage or excusing the deliberate death of someone else.
 
pianistclare said:
Side with LIFE.
Show compassion for the child.
There’s nothing compassionate about encourage or excusing the deliberate death of someone else.
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The people who support abortion I this case see killing the child as having compassion for both the mother and child. For the mother by not having her go through the act of seeing her child born and gasping for air until he dies and for the child so the child would not suffer. It seems like each side is talking past each other and I don’t know how to fix that.
 
regression said:
The people who support abortion I this case see killing the child as having compassion for both the mother and child. For the mother by not having her go through the act of seeing her child born and gasping for air until he dies and for the child so the child would not suffer. It seems like each side is talking past each other and I don’t know how to fix that.
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Easy. We should never hasten death.
People die when God says it’s time. Not us.
Death is not supposed to be easy, is it?
I know a person right now in the hospital gasping for air. She is praying for life, not death.
Far worse to terminate the life of your own child and never be able to hold it, look into it’s eyes and say I love you.

Spend some time readings the stories of women who have had abortions and very much regret it, and all the sorrow, guilt, and pain they feel for YEARS. There is no easy answer to illness. That is a fallacy.
 
pianistclare said:
Easy. We should never hasten death.
People die when God says it’s time. Not us.
Death is not supposed to be easy, is it?
I know a person right now in the hospital gasping for air. She is praying for life, not death.
Far worse to terminate the life of your own child and never be able to hold it, look into it’s eyes and say I love you.

Spend some time readings the stories of women who have had abortions and very much regret it, and all the sorrow, guilt, and pain they feel for YEARS. There is no easy answer to illness. That is a fallacy.
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Thanks for your thoughts, they make perfect sense to me. Reading the comments on the article I read is very disheartening. So many people see abortion as the easy, compassionate thing to do.
 
regression said:
Thanks for your thoughts, they make perfect sense to me. Reading the comments on the article I read is very disheartening. So many people see abortion as the easy, compassionate thing to do.
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We shoudl ask those commenting if they would think it’s compassionate if WE ( or any stranger) could decide when they probably shouldn’t be living anymore. The opinions change rather quickly. :o Don’t ask their opinion, just make a “choice” on their behalf. :eek: They’d be crowing from the rooftops. But children can’t speak for themselves. Which makes it all the more shameful.

peace.
 
pianistclare said:
Easy. We should never hasten death.
People die when God says it’s time. Not us.
Death is not supposed to be easy, is it?
I know a person right now in the hospital gasping for air. She is praying for life, not death.
Far worse to terminate the life of your own child and never be able to hold it, look into it’s eyes and say I love you.

Spend some time readings the stories of women who have had abortions and very much regret it, and all the sorrow, guilt, and pain they feel for YEARS. There is no easy answer to illness. That is a fallacy.
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Agree, it is easy, “Choose Life”. We are to go when God is ready to take us home. Not before & not by the decisions or hands of others.
 
regression said:
Thanks for your thoughts, they make perfect sense to me. Reading the comments on the article I read is very disheartening. So many people see abortion as the easy, compassionate thing to do.
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So many people see abortion as the easy thing to do? I doubt that. Even people who are pro choice I think largely see it as a difficult issue but they also consider the lives of the mother and the lives of her family members and the effect on their lives. I do agree with what you said that each side seems to talk past each other and I don’t know how to fix that.
 
Many of you underestimate the psychological impact of watching your newborn baby gasp for air and die in pain.

That’s not “choosing life” as some noble and religious cause. You’re choosing a two second long, painful, life which will emotionally scar a woman and lead to absolutely nothing but psychological damage. No baby’s life is being saved, its death is merely being put off to the last, painful minute.

Nothing about that is compassionate, and no matter how you try to twist the concept, your belief that you are “choosing life” in this scenario is one of the least noble things I have ever heard.

Putting off death until the last minute is not noble, it is not godly, it is not compassionate. Nothing I say will ever convince you otherwise, but I hope someday you’ll realize that.
 
tawny said:
Agree, it is easy, “Choose Life”. We are to go when God is ready to take us home. Not before & not by the decisions or hands of others.
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So if someone is dying a slow and painful death, you would rather them suffer until their heart and brain and soul can literally no longer take it? Because their last natural breath is automatically considered to be the last breath God chose for them? Don’t presume when God is ready to take someone home, don’t presume when someone’s last breath should be.
 

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I’m sorry, but “pro-choice” Is Not, Has Never Been, and Will Never Be compassionate!! The very definition of being “pro-choice” may be surrounded with flowers and tied with ribbons, but in the end, what is really being discussed here is “Our Convenience.” Oh, it has been dressed up and made to look like something innocent, but it is not. And what about the horrendous pain the baby feels as it is being “removed?” No one has commented on that! Since when did abortion lose its horror for Christians?

Is abortion better than allowing the baby to die being held by its mother? No, it wouldn’t be easy but life isn’t easy!

If we truly believe that we need to step in and play God, when do we legalize putting the elderly to death so we don’t have to watch them suffer? Stop and think, people! This is much more serious than you realize and there will be eternal consequences for those who take part in these things!
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DesertSister62 said:
If we truly believe that we need to step in and play God, when do we legalize putting the elderly to death so we don’t have to watch them suffer? Stop and think, people! This is much more serious than you realize and there will be eternal consequences for those who take part in these things!
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Not everyone believes in your God, your idea of eternal consequences. Don’t try to force your beliefs upon the rest of the world. They don’t think they’re playing God, and they think they are doing the right thing. So how about you not attempt to presume who will be going to hell and who won’t be? You don’t know, I don’t know.

People who don’t believe in God don’t need to “play God”. They just want to survive and do what’s right.
 
Whether one believes in hell or not, it doesn’t change the fact it exists. We do however, leave the judgement of souls to God. Abortion is a very grave sin against God, self, the baby and others.

Abortion leads to hell, and hell is eternal.

I have read accounts of pro-life couples choosing to give birth to their babies, knowing very well that their lives on earth would be very brief. They took turns holding and loving the baby, took pictures of him/her, spoke and sung to the baby. They had the chance to say hello and good-bye to the baby as he entered God’s kingdom. They also got the babies baptized. None of the couples ever regretted giving their babies life.

Abortion is very painful psychologically to the parents and families and very painful physically to the baby. It is often followed by deep guilt, regret, ptsd and sorrow.

I would have given anything to be able to see and hold my miscarried baby. All I got was a pool of blood.
 
regression said:
I read a story about a woman who had an abortion because the baby wouldn’t live but a few moments after birth, dying after gasping for air. Assuming this is true, what is a compassionate response? Obviously it is wrong to intentionally kill the child via an abortion. After the child is born I would assume doctors could do what they can to try and alleviate the baby’s suffering. However, the pro-abortion side takes the approach that an abortion would be better to save the mother having to carry a child to term only to watch her child die. To them, they are thinking of the psychological effect to the mother. What is the best way to approach the situation?
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Years ago, when I was teaching 5-6th grade CCD, the subject of abortion came up. Some said they thought it was OK. I let the kids talk and say how they felt for a few minutes. One little girl asked if it would be OK to get an abortion if the baby was going to die anyway after it was born. I asked them, how would they feel if they were that baby. Would they want their mother to have a Dr, Kill them, or would they want their Mother to love them so much, let them be born so she could have them Baptized and hold them in her arms and LOVE them till they go straight into the arms of Jesus .That baby would FOREVER know how much it’s Mother loved it. Every one of them decided they wanted to be the baby whose Mother loved them all the way to Heaven. I asked that same question to every class I taught for many years. I also told the kids they should ask that same question to their friends. God Bless, Memaw
 
Hope_Philomena said:
Many of you underestimate the psychological impact of watching your newborn baby gasp for air and die in pain.

That’s not “choosing life” as some noble and religious cause. You’re choosing a two second long, painful, life which will emotionally scar a woman and lead to absolutely nothing but psychological damage. No baby’s life is being saved, its death is merely being put off to the last, painful minute.

Nothing about that is compassionate, and no matter how you try to twist the concept, your belief that you are “choosing life” in this scenario is one of the least noble things I have ever heard.

Putting off death until the last minute is not noble, it is not godly, it is not compassionate. Nothing I say will ever convince you otherwise, but I hope someday you’ll realize that.
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Have you ever lost a baby??? I have lost 2 babies at about 6 months, and yes its always hard to lose someone you LOVE! But killing them for ANY reason would be far worse. I can’t even imagine the guilt! And yes they do suffer devastating guilt for the rest of their lives. Life AND Death IS Godly!! He is the author of both. I am 80 years old and I still think of my babies, what they would have looked like,etc. We have always included them in our family discussions. We ask them to pray for us. There’s no guilt, just LOVE! The day is getting closer when we will be together forever! God Bless, Memaw
 
It’s a matter of faith. Without faith, the decision to abort can be easily justified.

We know that God created the life inside the womb. We also know that God has a plan for every action He takes. We must trust in God’s plan for the parents and the baby.

If the child is Baptized and even if he lives only a short and painful life, we take joy in knowing, without doubt, that he is welcomed into the loving arms of Jesus. He will spend eternity with God in heaven.

It’s faith that leads the parents to giving the child a chance to live.
 
pianistclare said:
Easy. We should never hasten death.
People die when God says it’s time. Not us.
Death is not supposed to be easy, is it?
I know a person right now in the hospital gasping for air. She is praying for life, not death.
Far worse to terminate the life of your own child and never be able to hold it, look into it’s eyes and say I love you.

Spend some time readings the stories of women who have had abortions and very much regret it, and all the sorrow, guilt, and pain they feel for YEARS. There is no easy answer to illness. That is a fallacy.
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Agreed
 
Hope_Philomena said:
Many of you underestimate the psychological impact of watching your newborn baby gasp for air and die in pain.

That’s not “choosing life” as some noble and religious cause. You’re choosing a two second long, painful, life which will emotionally scar a woman and lead to absolutely nothing but psychological damage. No baby’s life is being saved, its death is merely being put off to the last, painful minute.

Nothing about that is compassionate, and no matter how you try to twist the concept, your belief that you are “choosing life” in this scenario is one of the least noble things I have ever heard.

Putting off death until the last minute is not noble, it is not godly, it is not compassionate. Nothing I say will ever convince you otherwise, but I hope someday you’ll realize that.
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Hope_Philomena said:
Not everyone believes in your God, your idea of eternal consequences. Don’t try to force your beliefs upon the rest of the world. They don’t think they’re playing God, and they think they are doing the right thing. So how about you not attempt to presume who will be going to hell and who won’t be? You don’t know, I don’t know.

People who don’t believe in God don’t need to “play God”. They just want to survive and do what’s right.
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Points worth consideration and well made.
 
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