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So she grew your body but you weren’t there, why did the body kick, suck its thumb, hiccup, roll over? what was making the heart beat? How can a body be alive without a soul to animate it? Your mother wasn’t making the body move, she wasn’t controlling the heart beat.
so how did you get into the body of the fetus? When did it become you? the moment you moved into the birth canal? stuck your head out? what about those born by Cesarean?Science says you were you at conception.
That’s not abortion, that is accidental death due to side effects of life saving drugs.
So if your body was born dead, your parents would have chucked it out as trash? or would they have buried the baby’s dead body with full funeral rites? Are you saying women who suffer a stillbirth don’t give birth to a dead baby but give birth to a fetus that isn’t anyone?
A human being that can’t move or survive outside of the womb. See, it’s still a human being.
how lucky and blessed you are. But there are plenty of great folks walking around who are the product of rape. How they got here doesn’t negate their humanity.
Yes, they are living cells, like your heart and skin cells. But they become something different and unique when joined. In fact, the egg and sperm are the only two human cells that will join up to create something new. You can’t put a heart cell in with a brain cell and get a new person no matter how long you wait.
only if you consider bleeding from a cut as killing or murdering blood cells.
Right dead cells can’t divide and reproduce.
Yes, and many have. You need to study up on female reproduction. And fertile women do not release dead eggs. If the eggs are dead she is infertile. There are times in a woman’s cycle when it is less likely she will conceive but there are no guaranteed times.
but the sperm is not the zygote. It is only an individual human life when the embryo is created. That’s when you get the unique DNA for a whole new human being.
Fetus is Latin for BABY. The Romans considered the baby in the womb human life. But the Romans didn’t believe human life was sacred. That’s why they killed unwanted babies even after they were born. They didn’t consider it murder either.
Not now, but you were a fetus once in your early, early life. Just as you are no longer a toddler. I’ve got pictures of my babies when they were in the womb. They weren’t parasites and they weren’t tumors. My children were human beings from the day of conception.
I think I need to stop this argument, neither I will be forced to violate the forum rules and will be banned,and i do not want that,because I am here for faith question and friendship, not to fight. So I will only answer the red texts. well it kicks after fetal stage. But before fetal stage how can you claim that a zygote has life? now do not jump that I am accepting tour logic that I consider a fetus a human being.
***Why Catholics are to eager to the so called protect the right of life because of their flawed belief that a fetus is human being? Do you forget the history of inquisition? I hope not. What about Burning the knights Templers?What about killing innocent Jews when you lost Crusade with Muslims? remember or forgot all?
What about the
Fourth Crusade*** ?your history is not better than Muslims, so all were great works? killing peoples? and now too eager to save life by proclaiming zygote as life and forcing women to carry it,even if it is a product of rape?
really you are the perfect humanist!Pope Innocent III declared 4rth crusade against orthodox Christians, do you read the history?Yes I rely on wikipedia not on any official Christian or Muslim site.anyway
I think I must not Go further, because if I will go further then I will have to talk too much that will be the cause of banning from this forum that I do not want. I just want to say, I will never have any good relation with ultra religious peoples, who always take sacred scriptures as the standard, and want to prove their scripture as the standard of modern science.
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Anyway you can reply only one of my post regarding the creation of 1st man if you wish, Bible said that 1st man came 6000 years before, while history said it came almost 200000 years before.or can start new thread about it, if you wish**.But as far I guess none of you believe in modern science.
well I am not a scientists too because my subject is business administration, but I am a follower of modern science, and its not necessary to be a student of science if you want to know about science.And I only belong to modern science and science is my religion and scientists are my God or Gods whatever you call.
thanks ,and Good bye.
Best of luck.
. That’s good I appreciate it.
