Abortion is a Satanic Sacrifice

[epan]

Communism = Leninist-Marxism and Maoism. Without Marxism none of it derivatives would exist.

Even Marx recognized that communism predated his theories. The monastic communities of the medieval Church are often cited as examples of early communism. That is just one example.

Communism is the common ownership of property and means of production. Simple as that, and it has been practiced for millennia successfully in small communities all over the world, and throughout history. There is nothing intrinsically evil about it.

Another example is the Asian practice of the entire village owning the rice paddies and the food stores, and working together. Everyone in the village gets a share of the crop, regardless of whether an elderly person, or someone doing a job not in the rice paddies. Everyone works communally. There is little in the way of private property, really just personal effects, and everyone benefits from the shared ownership and labor. I only think that this works on a small scale, as in a monastery, a small village, a commune… etc.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Another example is the Asian practice of the entire village owning the rice paddies and the food stores, and working together. Everyone in the village gets a share of the crop, regardless of whether an elderly person, or someone doing a job not in the rice paddies. Everyone works communally. There is little in the way of private property, really just personal effects, and everyone benefits from the shared ownership and labor. I only think that this works on a small scale, as in a monastery, a small village, a commune… etc.

This sounds a lot like the way the believers shared their possessions in Acts 4:32-35.

 

[djames99]

our ministry works with priests around the country. we have reference letter from many priests including a “Bishops Letter”.i speak at Catholic middle and high schools &. CCD classes,at churches and conferences around the country and may be speaking out of the country next year. One of the websites posted is owned by a Fathers of Mercy priest. We have produced approx 10 dvds and cds that we sell. Our ministry is almost 5 years old. And our goal is to open people’s eyes to satan and either bring them back to the Church or bring them in for the 1st time. Satan’s goal isnt to get you to worship him. His goal is for you not to worship God.

i didnt understand your statement or question…“Is this an actual abortion going on?” what is that question in reference to?

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Thanks Zack.

I’m not critiquing you and your resolve to get the message out. That is commendable. It’s good you have such credible support.

My concern is that we are to be an audience for a video on true horror. If this is so, and the times were pre 60’s, then I could agree. Some vestige of what is moral and ethical was still remaining in the general populace then. We live in a world now where we are numbed to anything shocking.

There’s a desensitization of sorts happening to us, and what is hoped will have a predictable effect may in fact be true, but what are the percentages?. If success is claimed by 5% going home with turned stomachs and a clearer picture as to a task to do, sleeves rolled up, and people getting on the phone to stop it, is it offset by the initiation of some or affect to the ill disposed 95% who can now accept a greater amount of tolerance to immorality because of it?.

Videos/films etc. convey messages, but they can also be conditioning tools as well, and picked up has entertainment value. If that were not so, why are we concerned about the effects of what we see on TV or at the movies.? Even if it is felt a pre briefing is required before viewing, then perhaps the briefing IS adequate to get the message out.

We recall during the French revolution that at home mom’s would bring a chair and lunch to watch guillotining all day, and knit while doing so. The same for band-standing executions common today. (If a mom enjoyed being there, frankly that is one house I would shudder to return to.)

So that is my concern and the question, no offense intended.

 

[djames99]

Thanks Zack.

I’m not critiquing you and your resolve to get the message out. That is commendable. It’s good you have such credible support.

My concern is that we are to be an audience for a video on true horror. If this is so, and the times were pre 60’s, then I could agree. Some vestige of what is moral and ethical was still remaining in the general populace then. We live in a world now where we are numbed to anything shocking.

There’s a desensitization of sorts happening to us, and what is hoped will have a predictable effect may in fact be true, but what are the percentages?. If success is claimed by 5% going home with turned stomachs and a clearer picture as to a task to do, sleeves rolled up, and people getting on the phone to stop it, does it justify the initiation of some, or affect to the ill disposed 95% who can now accept a greater amount of tolerance to immorality because of it?.

Videos/films etc. convey messages, but they can also be conditioning tools as well, and picked up has entertainment value. If that were not so, why are we concerned about the effects of what we see on TV or at the movies.? Even if it is felt a pre briefing is required before viewing, then perhaps the briefing IS adequate to get the message out.

We recall during the French revolution that at home mom’s would bring a chair and lunch to watch guillotining all day, and knit while doing so. The same for band-standing executions common today. (If a mom enjoyed being there, frankly that is one house I would shudder to return to.)

So that is my concern and the question, no offense intended.

 

[zackin]

never said i own a car./QUOTE

Oh, are we playing the nit picking game? i was so unaware. Prove anything to me. Do you own anything? Prove it. Did you graduate high school? prove it. The ball is still in your court. How does anyone prove anything? How do i prove it to you or anyone else? If you’re gonna ask the question you must have an idea of what it would take to satisfy you as an answer

 

[zackin]

Could you tell us how Satanism influenced Communism and Marxism? I once read that there was an occult influence. Marian apparitions seem to claim that Communism is Satanic in nature.

the simplest answer i can give is what do the 3 modalities have in common? None of them worship God. Communism and Marxism have removed God from the landscape. And satan doesnt want anyone to worship God.

If you wish a more complex answer might i suggest researching it on google

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Prove anything to me.

For all I know, you and the rest of the alleged “posters” are actually bots.

Or I’m just imagining there’s a CAF. :whacky:

Alan

 

[BluesPicker]

I wasn’t even thinking of Black Mass. I just find it hard to believe that EVERY abortion is a sacrifice to Satan.

“Everyone who commits sin is a child of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The Son of God was revealed for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil” (1 John 3:8).

  Every sin gives glory (actually like anti-glory) to Satan.

In “The Roman Ritual” (1964) translated from Latin (this is an Official Vatican Pulication) to English by Fr. Philip Weller STD there is a section “PART XI. BLESSINGS AND OTHER SACRAMENTALS.” This guide for priests contains all the information on how to conduct these rituals & the actual words for blessing prayers & also the theological background to get a real sense of what they mean. Here is some information on the unbaptized:

" In the devil’s hatred for God he turned on man, who is made in God’s image. In consequence of original sin men are no longer temples of the Holy Spirit but rather the habitations of the demon. Not too much distinction is made between the possessed and the unbaptized. Isidore of Seville puts both on the same level, and says that exorcism is the ceremony of banishing the most wicked influence of the devil from catechumens and possessed alike."

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 Abortion is a grave matter.

BluesPicker

 

[MtnDwellar]

Every abortion committed in the world gets dedicated to Satan ever single day by High Wizards across the world. Even if the person getting the abortion doesn’t dedicate it to Satan, it still happens.

What difference does it make? I don’t think that it matters if the High Wizard dedicates every sin that anyone commits every day to Satan.

 

[Imryl]

2416 Animals are God’s creatures. He surrounds them with his providential care. By their mere existence they bless him and give him glory.197 Thus men owe them kindness. We should recall the gentleness with which saints like St. Francis of Assisi or St. Philip Neri treated animals. (344)

Nothing I said is contrary to this. You should treat them kindly, but Alan’s example was different than my original comparison in that he said there was a gun placed at someone’s head.

My example indicated that the act of kicking Fido was already determined to be a sin based on intent, but that the sin of sacrilege against the blessed sacrament was more grave then the sin of being cruel to a dog.

Of course, any sin against God is a horrible thing. But there are degrees.

That conversation is way off topic though.

What proof can you give everyone that you know with absolute certainly that the OP is not telling us the truth here. Were you deeply involved with Satanism? Can you provide us verifiable proof that he is not telling us the truth about his 26 years? Were you actually involved in Satanism as an experience or were you involved in it through research about it?

I can have intellectual and moral certainty by evaluating the evidence presented, or lack thereof, and by knowing a bit about that culture and the relationship between the different groups. Or, in reality, lack of relationship between different groups.

Tell me, how do you provide verifiable proof of something that did not happen, to someone you do not know? If what he claims is true, he should be able to produce receipts, tickets, people, places and times. You don’t fly around the world without any evidence of ever being there.

My experience is only a couple of years less then our dear friend Zachary.

 

[april32010]

april32010;9846632:

never said i own a car.

i am not the focus here ,i am not claiming anything.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

What difference does it make? I don’t think that it matters if the High Wizard dedicates every sin that anyone commits every day to Satan.

Actually I wonder the same thing.

From a mystical perspective I don’t know what additional injury is created by the dedication compared to the sinfulness of the act in and of itself.

But if nothing else, such “dedication” might hit just a little too close to home with people who would otherwise be more wishy-washy about their abortion views. Almost everyone knows someone who had an abortion, but most people don’t know of anybody who performs satanic rituals.

As I said, too many of us don’t really want to know the reality of our own mistakes, or at least wish to downplay them. “Oops I did it again.” Sounds like Britney Spears theology.

So perhaps the dedication could serve as a “wake-up call” for otherwise complacent Christians. In fact, this is why I thought the OP even brought it to our attention. Am I right about that, OP?

Alan

 

[Imryl]

As I said, too many of us don’t really want to know the reality of our own mistakes, or at least wish to downplay them. “Oops I did it again.” Sounds like Britney Spears theology.

LOL!

 

[BluesPicker]

Actually I wonder the same thing.

But if nothing else, such “dedication” might hit just a little too close to home with people who would otherwise be more wishy-washy about their abortion views. Almost everyone knows someone who had an abortion, but most people don’t know of anybody who performs satanic rituals.

Alan

 Yeah  Alan,   you don't get it,  it is a a Satanic ritual.   Regardless of  dedication or not,  it is a Satanic ritual.   And naturally if one is a Satanist they dedicate it.

     What  happens to the soul of  an aborted child?

BP

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Yeah Alan, you don’t get it, it is a a Satanic ritual. Regardless of dedication or not, it is a Satanic ritual. And naturally if one is a Satanist they dedicate it.

Exactly. It is satanic ritual, whether or not it is dedicated. So why wouldn’t people want to hear the truth?

     What  happens to the soul of  an aborted child?

BP

You tell me. I’m not a theologian. If God asked my opinion on where they should go, I’m pretty sure I would humbly voice one: heaven.

Alan

 

[MtnDwellar]

But if nothing else, such “dedication” might hit just a little too close to home with people who would otherwise be more wishy-washy about their abortion views. Almost everyone knows someone who had an abortion, but most people don’t know of anybody who performs satanic rituals.

Yes. If I was participating in or supporting abortion in some fashion, I would find it distrubing that my actions may be dedicated to Satan - no matter how fuitless the dedication.

 

[april32010]

If you’re gonna ask the question you must have an idea of what it would take to satisfy you as an answer

it’ll take more than you saying that you were the grand poobah.

 

[ChibiViolet]

I don’t find it that hard to believe at all. Somewhere out there, someone is asking Satan to accept all the aborted babies as sacrifice. That’s not an absurd statement or concept to comprehend.

Okay, no, but I thought what was being said was that all abortionists were theistic Satanists…

 

[zackin]

Nothing I said is contrary to this. You should treat them kindly, but Alan’s example was different than my original comparison in that he said there was a gun placed at someone’s head.

My example indicated that the act of kicking Fido was already determined to be a sin based on intent, but that the sin of sacrilege against the blessed sacrament was more grave then the sin of being cruel to a dog.

Of course, any sin against God is a horrible thing. But there are degrees.

That conversation is way off topic though.

I can have intellectual and moral certainty by evaluating the evidence presented, or lack thereof, and by knowing a bit about that culture and the relationship between the different groups. Or, in reality, lack of relationship between different groups.

Tell me, how do you provide verifiable proof of something that did not happen, to someone you do not know? If what he claims is true, he should be able to produce receipts, tickets, people, places and times. You don’t fly around the world without any evidence of ever being there.

My experience is only a couple of years less then our dear friend Zachary.

and i would have kept a McDonalds receipt and an airline ticket from 2004 for what reason? At times I think why bother posting anything at all…but then i realize satan would like that

 

[april32010]

and i would have kept a McDonalds receipt and an airline ticket from 2004 for what reason? At times I think why bother posting anything at all…but then i realize satan would like that

are you above being questioned ?