Abortion law - should man partner be made accountable?

[Freddy]

27lw:

Before people have intimate relations, just make the parties sign a contract for medical payments, legal fees / custody plans / child support for any ensuing STIs and/or children.
Kind of like we used to have this contractual thing called “marriage” before people had intimate relations.
Now how colleges and universities have this big thing about “consent”, they could just add “have you signed the legal paperwork?”

A lot of sex outside of marriage is at least somewhat spontaneous and it goes without saying that spontaneity and signing paperwork don’t go together.

This would never work, at least not on a large scale.

‘Good grief, I find you so attractive’.
‘Perhaps you’d like to come up to my hotel room’.
‘You bet!’
‘I’ll go up now and wait for you. And if you could fill in this two page form before you come up. Sign…here…here…here…and here. And get the barman to witness it. He’s a JP. Leave a copy at reception together with your bank details. You know…just in case’.

 

[Inquisitor85]

Kind of like we used to have this contractual thing called “marriage” before people had intimate relations.

Yeah, sure. Nobody had sex outside of marriage in the past. Nope. Never happened. Not once.

The fact that people didn’t talk about it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Why do you think so many young women were sent to stay with “Aunt Petunia” who lived in the countryside? Why did the hateful Magdalene Laundries exist?

 

[Anesti33]

27lw:

Kind of like we used to have this contractual thing called “marriage” before people had intimate relations.

Yeah, sure. Nobody had sex outside of marriage in the past. Nope. Never happened. Not once.

The fact that people didn’t talk about it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Why do you think so many young women were sent to stay with “Aunt Petunia” who lived in the countryside? Why did the hateful Magdalene Laundries exist?

There were many arrangements available for women who fell pregnant in the past, but not any longer. Did you notice that? Since January 1973, the number of homes for pregnant women has fallen precipitously. Well, Catholics are turning that around. There are grassroots efforts to provide loving, caring environments for women to safely have their children and get back on their feet, even after domestic violence, rejection, and being plagued with doubt.

If you think the Magdalene Laundries were “hateful” then I suppose you would prefer the alternative, working for a pimp in a filthy tenement.

 

[Inquisitor85]

If you think the Magdalene Laundries were “hateful” then I suppose you would prefer the alternative, working for a pimp in a filthy tenement.

Yeah, slavery regardless who is doing it is hateful. It may be better than forced prostitution, but it’s still slavery.

 

[Dan123]

Since January 1973, the number of homes for pregnant women has fallen precipitously.

Do you have a citation for that? I’m curious how we’d determine it was due to abortion and not just due to society not stigmatizing women for being pregnant as teens and young women as much, and feeling like they need to be hidden away.

 

[Lifeisbeautiful3]

Since January 1973, the number of homes for pregnant women has fallen precipitously. Well, Catholics are turning that around. There are grassroots efforts to provide loving, caring environments for women…

How about for men who are left to raise children alone (I’m one - the children’s mother hasn’t called or written in many years…)