Abortion may be less traumatic than childbirth, study finds.

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These days you can’t really trust any study. Everything is motivated by money right now and he who has the gold gets the results they want.

Its just a fact of the world today. People can manipulate numbers or interpret numbers into a multitude of ways. And most people will just believe them for it.

Also, have they ever considered how giving birth is being marketed as a health issue nowadays? Giving such a negative image to something as natural as childbirth will in fact affect a woman’s mental health. We’ve put too much worry and fear into the minds of women nowadays that indeed childbirth can be stressful. But the source oftentimes will not be the childbirth itself.
 
Regardless of the woman’s state of mind the baby is still murdered. If woman are equally traumatized then at least allow the human life to continue. Here we see yet another attempt to promote the culture of death. Has there been a study done to see how traumatic it is for the fetus to be extracted from the womb? How does this result compare to the baby brought to full term?

This is an abomination. Period. If a study can prove that a mother who kills her child is less traumatized than a mother who gives birth then that has got to speak volumes about our society’s moral awareness… teachccd
 
What a foolish study. Pretty much proves my theory that studies either reinforce or the obvious or are usually wrong.
 
teachccd said:
Regardless of the woman’s state of mind the baby is still murdered. If woman are equally traumatized then at least allow the human life to continue. Here we see yet another attempt to promote the culture of death. Has there been a study done to see how traumatic it is for the fetus to be extracted from the womb? How does this result compare to the baby brought to full term?

This is an abomination. Period. If a study can prove that a mother who kills her child is less traumatized than a mother who gives birth then that has got to speak volumes about our society’s moral awareness… teachccd
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100% of all those who I asked in my survey did not object to partial birth abortions, “regular abortions” or leaving “botched abortion babies” alone with no medical treatment to die.*

This is a true study with no fudging of the numbers.

*The number of those surveyed was one, and that was my dog. She could not care any less about the subject matter or the morality of abortion.

You can prove just about anything with a “scientific study”.
 
Newbie2 said:
100% of all those who I asked in my survey did not object to partial birth abortions, “regular abortions” or leaving “botched abortion babies” alone with no medical treatment to die.*

This is a true study with no fudging of the numbers.
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I’m not sure I understand. Is this a quote from the posted article? I read the article and the study results several times and couldn’t find it . . .
 
The physical discomfort felt by the mother may be less traumatic but what about the baby? The baby dies. Dying in abortion is traumatic.

Peace,
Ed
 
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I’m not sure I understand. Is this a quote from the posted article? I read the article and the study results several times and couldn’t find it . . .
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See the citation at the bottom of the post that you are wondering about. :eek:
 
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See the citation at the bottom of the post that you are wondering about. :eek:
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😉 Gotcha. Sorry, bhall0689, didn’t mean for anyone to think it was from the article, just wanted to demonstrate how “studies” can pretty much prove anything.
 
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Was curious as to the board’s responses/thoughts to this study.

politicsdaily.com/2011/01/31/abortion-may-be-less-traumatic-than-childbirth-study-finds/
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Umm let’s see…

Doctor, I killed my baby and I can’t get the sights and sounds out of my head. I am haunted day and night! Help!
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Doctor, I am so tired from my new baby and my mother-in-law won’t stop coming by un-
announced to see her new grandchild. And my husband gags over poopey diapers. Help!
 
I think the info in this article is forgetting that murdering children just so you can live comfortably or because you think you will live more comfortably is not only wrong but disgusting. How are we going to teach our youth about fighting against crimes against humanity when the greatest one is currently legal by law to do? Remember everything the Nazis did was legal in their country. This injustice needs to stop.
 
When somebody is bothering you, shooting them in the head may seem more stress releiving than talking it out or just dealing with it. Doesn’t change the fact that you just killed somebody though.
 
The real flaw of the study is the assumption that mental health can be measured by the incidence rates of first psychiatric contact. Just because a post abortion woman does not seek help does not mean she well. The funding is of note as well;

Looking at the bottom of the study as published at nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0905882;
Supported by grants from the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation (to Dr. Munk-Olsen and Dr. Laursen) and the Danish Medical Research Council (09-063642/FSS, to Dr. Munk-Olsen).
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From the Wiki article on the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation;
The Buffett Foundation does not accept unsolicited requests, preferring instead to seek out worthy recipients on its own.[1]
Of the $17.6 million that the Buffett Foundation donated in the fiscal year ended June 30, 1999, nearly $3.8 million went to Planned Parenthood, among its top contributors. It also involves itself directly at the clinic level. Buffett money has enabled dozens of Planned Parenthood clinics to add abortion to their services, for example $178,000 to the University of Michigan clinic.[3]
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kbwall said:
When somebody is bothering you, shooting them in the head may seem more stress releiving than talking it out or just dealing with it. Doesn’t change the fact that you just killed somebody though.
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Newbie2 said:
😉 Gotcha. Sorry, bhall0689, didn’t mean for anyone to think it was from the article, just wanted to demonstrate how “studies” can pretty much prove anything.
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Please be careful here and understand that many times scientists are employed to perform studies on behalf of organizations. Most of these scientists are honest, using accepted scientific methods, and are loath to compromize the truth for a dollar. What the organization who comissions the study does with the data however is often beyond the control of the person who actually performs a statistical analysis or experimentation.

I study how to collapse large Information Technoogy infrastructures into smaller datacenters and have shown organizations how to go from 500 servers down to 50, saving them tremendous amounts of money. Many times I am asked in various veiled ways to “Highlight” a certain manufacturer’s feature or to “Emphasize” a certain aspect of the study. My response is for them to go take a hike, that my soul is not for sale.

There is some pretty lousy science out there and some analysists who have sold their souls. But please be aware that there are a great number of professionals who are comissioned to do analsysis and have no control how the data will be used. Please don’t assume that the scientist is intentionally falsifying data just because a corporation or non-for propfit is funding the study.

I agree with most of the comments here re. failure to “Study” trauma to the infant. Trauma to whom?

But please be aware that 100% of people who drink orange juice will die! Anyone can use data to prove a point but that does not mean that the data is bad or that the analyst who produced the data is evil.

-Tim-
 
Wow that’s probably the most biased and unscientific “study” I have ever seen in my entire life. I hate it when people play politics with numbers rather than just giving a truly honest assessment.
 
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