Abortion Preferable To Homo Parents?

[jrabs]

To the poster of this question…I think someone’s charity was temporarily abandoned.

I will pray you find it and that I don’t lose mine.
With that, In Jesus name I pray…

 

[katherine2]

Fitz:

So, are those my only choices? I think children deserve to live in two parent families where the parents are married to each other (man and woman), with no previous families etc. I will go out on a limb here when I say children deserve a family where parents love each other and the Lord, and they teach the children to love the Lord. Is this a pipe dream? Maybe, but it is the best case scenario for all children.

I totally agree with Fitz. In the abstract, I don’t think those are the only two choices and the ideal Fitz outlines should be strived for. However, I also recognize that in particular situations, yes, those could be the only two options (I have neighbors, two guys, who talked a woman out of an abortion by agreeing to adopt her child). In some states, this option would have been illegal.

Second, we do not have enough self-proclaimed Christians to take in all of the children up for adoption. If they are the white and not disabled and infants, yes. But not all.

The law should give first preference to married couples in stable unions. Those who demand an absolute legal bar to any gay adoptions in any circumstances should deal with the fact that they certainly are condeming at least some babies to abortion.

 

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rwoehmke:

Would you rather have homosexual “parents” or be the victim of abortion?

Hobson’s choice. No choice at all.

 

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katherine2:

I totally agree with Fitz. In the abstract, I don’t think those are the only two choices and the ideal Fitz outlines should be strived for. However, I also recognize that in particular situations, yes, those could be the only two options (I have neighbors, two guys, who talked a woman out of an abortion by agreeing to adopt her child). In some states, this option would have been illegal.

Second, we do not have enough self-proclaimed Christians to take in all of the children up for adoption. If they are the white and not disabled and infants, yes. But not all.

The law should give first preference to married couples in stable unions. Those who demand an absolute legal bar to any gay adoptions in any circumstances should deal with the fact that they certainly are condeming at least some babies to abortion.

False. 'Gays" have no right to adopt and they should be prohibited from adoption. Only by today’s looney logic would anyone condone such a tragic act.

 

[katherine2]

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False. 'Gays" have no right to adopt

And married couples have no right to adopt either. There is no right to adopt. All rights are with the child. No rights are with the potential parents.

and they should be prohibited from adoption. Only by today’s looney logic would anyone condone such a tragic act.

Less tragic than their destruction by abortion in my book. You, of course, are entitled to a contrary view.

 

[Exporter]

rwoehmke:

Would you rather have homosexual “parents” or be the victim of abortion?

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It asked if “I” would… I would rather be alive!

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

We do have enough self-proclaimed Christians to adopt these children.If you are striving to be a true Christian,why in the world would it matter if the child was handicapped or what race the child is?If those things matter with someone proclaiming to be Christian then shame is in order:tsktsk: That is what the directoress of one of the abortion mills said that nobody wants black babies:banghead: A baby is a baby ,a child is a child,and a human is a human,race age or disability should play no part in adoption especially from Christians.God Bless

 

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katherine2:

And married couples have no right to adopt either. There is no right to adopt. All rights are with the child. No rights are with the potential parents.

We agree that homosexuals have no right, or should have any legal standing, to adopt.

Less tragic than their destruction by abortion in my book. You, of course, are entitled to a contrary view.

I agree, with the Catholic Church, that Children should not be adopted by homosexuals. You, too, are entitled to your opinion.

 

[katherine2]

Lisa4Catholics:

We do have enough self-proclaimed Christians to adopt these children.If you are striving to be a true Christian,why in the world would it matter if the child was handicapped or what race the child is?If those things matter with someone proclaiming to be Christian then shame is in order:tsktsk: That what the directoress of one of the abortion mills said that nobody wants black babies:banghead: A baby is a baby ,a child is a child,and a human is a human,race age or disability should play no part in adoption especially from Christians.God Bless

it shouldn’t but it does. The bottom line is that older children, handicapped and black babies are difficult to find homes for.

I’m proud to say that my parish received a commendation from the Archbishop for our extremely high number of interracial adoptions. The pastor joked a kid in our parish ask his expecting mother what color the baby would be. parish life had caused the little tyke to not even realize that babies come in the same color as their birth parents!!!

 

[caroljm36]

rwoehmke:

Sorry if the word homo offended any one. It has been in my vocabulary for over 60 years and I thought it had lost its original sting. As to the purpose for this question: I have noticed that the posts in this forum or usually quite negative about “Gays” and I was beginning to wonder if there were any people out there who were homophobic enough to go for abortion. I am reassured by the quality of your posts. . Like some of you I do know some Gay people none of which have kids or are in Gay marriages. I don’t get into discussions about their private behavior and would have to say that by and large they are as nice if not more nice than some of my “normal” friends.

Oh, so you were baiting us with your false dichotomy. Surprise surprise.

Look, just because we are up front about what the Church’s position is on homosexual acts (per old testament and our catechism) does NOT mean we’re “homophobic” or think it merits abortion. In fact, nowadays the average person makes very little deal about gay family members or co-workers (any more than they say hey there’s a BLACK man in the office!!).

But we WILL tell the truth about Catholic morality and not water it all down so someone’s feelings don’t get hurt. We can do that you know. It’s a free country.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

katherine2:

it shouldn’t but it does. The bottom line is that older children, handicapped and black babies are difficult to find homes for.

I’m proud to say that my parish received a commendation from the Archbishop for our extremely high number of interracial adoptions. The pastor joked a kid in our parish ask his expecting mother what color the baby would be. parish life had caused the little tyke to not even realize that babies come in the same color as their birth parents!!!

Your Parish is to be commended,and we need to work on the conscience of other people in that matter,because no child should be denied a home because of any of those factors.That should not be the case as far as Christians are concerned,not one child in this country should be without a Christian home if our faith was truly being followed.

 

[katherine2]

Lisa4Catholics:

Your Parish is to be commended,and we need to work on the conscience of other people in that matter,because no child should be denied a home because of any of those factors.That should not be the case as far as Christians are concerned,not one child in this country should be without a Christian home if our faith was truly being followed.

Thank you, dear, and God bless you.

 

[Fiat]

katherine2:

And married couples have no right to adopt either. There is no right to adopt. All rights are with the child. No rights are with the potential parents.

Less tragic than their destruction by abortion in my book. You, of course, are entitled to a contrary view.

Huh?
You certainly don’t have any sort of legal authority for this claim. Children have far fewer rights than adults, and none of those rights include a right to be adopted.

Furthermore, potential parents do have rights, depending on what sort of state laws exist.

Fiat

 

[Fiat]

katherine2:

Those who demand an absolute legal bar to any gay adoptions in any circumstances should deal with the fact that they certainly are condeming at least some babies to abortion.

This is somewhat bizarre, Katherine2, even for you. I have never met a woman who had an abortion because she doubted the likelihood that someone would adopt her child.

Fiat

 

[katherine2]

Fiat:

This is somewhat bizarre, Katherine2, even for you. I have never met a woman who had an abortion because she doubted the likelihood that someone would adopt her child.

Fiat

As I have mentioned several times, I do have personal knowledge of such a situation. Certainly its understandable that we all have different viewpoints based on ou rpersonal experiece.

 

[Fiat]

katherine2:

As I have mentioned several times, I do have personal knowledge of such a situation. Certainly its understandable that we all have different viewpoints based on ou rpersonal experiece.

So should legislative policy be based on the irrational conclusions of a few?

Fiat

 

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Fiat:

So should legislative policy be based on the irrational conclusions of a few?

Fiat

Yes, if the goal is to desensitize many to the horror of the “gay” agenda.

 

[katherine2]

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Yes, if the goal is to desensitize many to the horror of the “gay” agenda.

and for those who goal is to justify sins they have a weak spot for like adultery but use religon as a way of getting jollies for beating up on other people?

 

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katherine2:

and for those who goal is to justify sins they have a weak spot for like adultery but use religon as a way of getting jollies for beating up on other people?

What does that even mean?