Abortion Supporters State Ultrasounds Would Cost $700. Then Why Are Crisis Pregnancy Centers Doing Them for FREE?

[PLAL]

A Miami Heraldstory is about abortionists being legally required to show a women an ultrasound picture if she wants to see it. It is not required otherwise:

"Rep. Joyce Cusack, a Democrat… noted that not every abortion clinic has ultrasound equipment and those that do will have to charge patients more to offer the procedures.

Opponents of the measure said the procedure could cost a woman as much as $700, while supporters said the cost would likely be less than $100."

What I find interesting is that crisis pregnancy centers manage to do them for free.

Another thought, how do these people verify gestational age, without the ultrasound, to make sure the safest procedure is being performed?

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[Swan]

I don’t believe that all abortion clinics have ultrasound equipment, so this will require them to purchase it and to pay someone to operate it. Ultrasounds are not generally medically necessary prior to abortions. So if they are not medically necessary, why should a woman be required to have one?

 

[deb1]

I don’t believe that all abortion clinics have ultrasound equipment, so this will require them to purchase it and to pay someone to operate it. Ultrasounds are not generally medically necessary prior to abortions. So if they are not medically necessary, why should a woman be required to have one?

So, she can be fully informed before she has the procedure.

I am asking this question in all seriousness, and do not know the answer. If something goes wrong during the abortion wouldn’t ultrasound equipment be neccesary to save the life of the mother? I just assumed that clinics that informed abortions would have ultrasound equipment already. Don’t they do ultrasounds for safety sake before an abortion?

 

[Naztakuan]

I would thing that all abortionists use ultra sounds during the procedure to make sure all the “pieces” are cleaned out. To perform the procedure without it seems incredibly unsage and i belief borders on outright malpractice…no?

 

[ALLGIRLS]

I would thing that all abortionists use ultra sounds during the procedure to make sure all the “pieces” are cleaned out. To perform the procedure without it seems incredibly unsage and i belief borders on outright malpractice…no?

I was under the impression (from my research back in college, which was admittedly about 17 years ago) that an ultrasound was necessary to locate the “fetus” prior to the abortion. Yeah, not doing one would be gross negligence. But then again, what do you expect from “medical” clinics that are less regulated, and fight any attempt to increase regulation, than vet’s offices?

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[hasikelee]

The initial cost of an ultrasound would be more than $700, no?

How come no one is pointing out that they want to operate as a medical facility doing medical procedures, but balk at the cost of medical equipment?

How come this equipment isn’t mandatory already, for reasons are verifying the gestational age of the child, for verifying the killing was done correctly without damage to the uterus and in case of emergencies?

 

[deb1]

From what I have read before-but I don’t have any sources, sorry-abortion clincs make a profit. So why wouldn’t they put some of the money into equipment that is basic to protect the woman’s health in such a situation?

Stories like this make me seriously wonder if abortion clincs care at all about thier patients’ health or safety.

 

[deb1]

A Miami Heraldstory is about abortionists being legally required to show a women an ultrasound picture if she wants to see it. It is not required otherwise:

"Rep. Joyce Cusack, a Democrat… noted that not every abortion clinic has ultrasound equipment and those that do will have to charge patients more to offer the procedures.****

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Why would abortion clincs which already have equipment have to charge the patient more to use it? IT is already there and should be used anyway.

 

[vern_humphrey]

From what I have read before-but I don’t have any sources, sorry-abortion clincs make a profit. So why wouldn’t they put some of the money into equipment that is basic to protect the woman’s health in such a situation?

Stories like this make me seriously wonder if abortion clincs care at all about thier patients’ health or safety.

You just broke the code – they don’t care about the patient’s health or safety. They care about two things – money and recruitment. Once a woman has an abortion, she is pretty well forced to defend abortion for the rest of her life. That’s why they push for aborting minor children, without parental consent – catch them when they’re most vulnerable, leave them scarred – but put them in the pro-choice camp any way you can.

My community is too small to have a pregnancy center (but we’re working on it.) In the meantime, we support one in another county. They offer free ultrasounds – and they record some of them. I saw one where you see a tiny fluttering in what appears to be an otherwise empty womb. When I asked what it was, the operator said, “That’s the baby’s heart beating.”

Show** that** to a woman who wants an abortion, and she just might decide not to have one.

 

[aurora77]

I don’t understand where they get $700 as the cost of an ultrasound. I’ve had 3 (granted, none of them were for pregnancies) and DH had an extensive US on his heart. His was the most expensive and it was about $400.

Vern–you’re absolutely right. These people don’t care in the least about the health of the women who come to their clinics. It astounds me that pro-abortionists are willing to look the other way and support practices that could get other doctors sued. I guess when a person worships at the altar of Moloch anything can be rationalized.

 

[vern_humphrey]

I don’t understand where they get $700 as the cost of an ultrasound. I’ve had 3 (granted, none of them were for pregnancies) and DH had an extensive US on his heart. His was the most expensive and it was about $400.

Vern–you’re absolutely right. These people don’t care in the least about the health of the women who come to their clinics. It astounds me that pro-abortionists are willing to look the other way and support practices that could get other doctors sued. I guess when a person worships at the altar of Moloch anything can be rationalized.

And note that the New Jersey Supreme Court just recently ruled that Informed Consent does not apply to abortion. An abortionist can lie to his patient – in this case, telling her the unborn child was “just a blob of tissue.”

When the woman learned later that the unborn child she aborted had a beating heart, and was overcome with remorse, she had no right to sue the liar, according to the court.

 

[Swan]

I actually had an abortion but it was over 20 years ago. I definitely did not have an ultrasound and this was at a Planned Parenthood clinic. That was a long time ago though and things might have changed. I couldn’t find any conclusive info in my search on the medical necessity issue, which is what I’d like to know - especially given my personal experience. It is possible that it varies from state to state.

 

[vern_humphrey]

I actually had an abortion but it was over 20 years ago. I definitely did not have an ultrasound and this was at a Planned Parenthood clinic. That was a long time ago though and things might have changed. I couldn’t find any conclusive info in my search on the medical necessity issue, which is what I’d like to know - especially given my personal experience. It is possible that it varies from state to state.

I will dedicate a mass for you.

 

[deb1]

I actually had an abortion but it was over 20 years ago. I definitely did not have an ultrasound and this was at a Planned Parenthood clinic. That was a long time ago though and things might have changed. I couldn’t find any conclusive info in my search on the medical necessity issue, which is what I’d like to know - especially given my personal experience. It is possible that it varies from state to state.

I honestly don’t know, Swan. Medical advances are supposed to bring improvements to patient care. When I gave birth to the son, 18 years ago that I nearly aborted , ultrasounds were given one time around the seventh month. Not every woman I knew had one. With each subsequent child, ultrasounds have become more routine a procedure.

I am guessing that ultrasounds probably were not as common twenty years ago but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be required for all abortion clinics today.

 

[deb1]

I will dedicate a mass for you.

Dedicate one for me to Vern.:crying: My oldest son is cooking us chili tonight and I just thought, what if I had made a different choice. He wouldn’t be here.

 

[vern_humphrey]

Dedicate one for me to Vern.:crying: My oldest son is cooking us chili tonight and I just thought, what if I had made a different choice. He wouldn’t be here.

Take two ant-acids and call me in the morning.

 

[hasikelee]

Dedicate one for me to Vern.:crying: My oldest son is cooking us chili tonight and I just thought, what if I had made a different choice. He wouldn’t be here.

My friend at work asks me that question aloud a lot. What should I say to her to help her?

 

[deb1]

My friend at work asks me that question aloud a lot. What should I say to her to help her?

Could you clarify? Did she almost have an abortion also?

I think that some guilt is healthy. Its hard not to look at your child and realize that you almost murdered them. But I know that Christ has forgiven me and that I, thankfully, didn’t go through with the abortion.

Maybe you could tell your friend that guilt means that she is a decent human being and not a woman who has been so hardened that she can no longer let herself dare feel regret over her past actions.

Sometimes all you can do is listen and give the person a hug. We can’t always make the other person feel better. Sometimes they have to work on issues themselves, but we can be a good friend and listen.

 

[hasikelee]

Could you clarify? Did she almost have an abortion also?

I think that some guilt is healthy. Its hard not to look at your child and realize that you almost murdered them. But I know that Christ has forgiven me and that I, thankfully, didn’t go through with the abortion.

Maybe you could tell your friend that guilt means that she is a decent human being and not a woman who has been so hardened that she can no longer let herself dare feel regret over her past actions.

Sometimes all you can do is listen and give the person a hug. We can’t always make the other person feel better. Sometimes they have to work on issues themselves, but we can be a good friend and listen.

She had an abortion and regrets it. Sometimes I feel helpless and sometimes I feel that I don’t say the right thing.

 

[seekerz]

I support the requirement for ultrasounds before abortion so the women can see that it’s a baby they carry.

What’s confusing in this discussion is that some posts above seem to imply that not doing an ultrasound places the woman’s health at risk.

What basis is there for assuming that an abortion done without an ultrasound is medically unsafe for the mother? Are we confusing two issues here?