Abortion & the Mental health costs to society?

[danharte]

Do you think that a strong case for pro life could be Law suits against the state by women who have suffered through abortion & the mental health issues caused by being encouraged & legally being allowed to have one.
I don’t know if this legal avenue has ever been explored but just imagine if just 1% of women who have been through this sad situation filed law suits
That would make our governments sit up & take notice

 

[BlueEyedLady]

If the government mandated that they get abortions, sure.

But suing the government because you made a choice that you regret and they didn’t stop you? Yikes! If I drink and drive and hurt myself or others, should I sue the government because alcohol is legal? If I start smoking again and get cancer, should I sue the government for not keeping cigarettes out of my hands? What about fast food and obesity? If I eat cheeseburgers until I’m diabetic can I sue for that? What if I decide to get breast implants, the surgery is botched, and I end up disfigured?

Essentially, I’m saying that people need to take responsibility for their own actions. You can’t sue someone because they didn’t stop you from doing something.

 

[LisaA]

Do you think that a strong case for pro life could be Law suits against the state by women who have suffered through abortion & the mental health issues caused by being encouraged & legally being allowed to have one.
I don’t know if this legal avenue has ever been explored but just imagine if just 1% of women who have been through this sad situation filed law suits
That would make our governments sit up & take notice

I don’t think it’s necessary to sue. One of the most effective tools against abortion are organizations like Silent No More and others where women give their testimonies about how much they suffered emotional and physical anguish following their abortion. It is sold as “no fuss, no muss” and a way to solve a problem But what many many women learn is that they only trade a temporary inconvenience for a lifetime of regret and sorrow.

The current regime is very pro abortion and tries to squelch information that is negative about the effects of abortion, mental, emotional and physical. However there are more and more large studies in other countries where multiple abortions are very common (India and China) as well as in America that demonstrate a serious uptick in breast cancer rates and other lasting effects of abortion. The Left can belittle religion or pro life people but they have a hard time arguing with research backed truth about abortion.

LIsa

 

[danharte]

If the government mandated that they get abortions, sure.

But suing the government because you made a choice that you regret and they didn’t stop you? Yikes! If I drink and drive and hurt myself or others, should I sue the government because alcohol is legal? If I start smoking again and get cancer, should I sue the government for not keeping cigarettes out of my hands? What about fast food and obesity? If I eat cheeseburgers until I’m diabetic can I sue for that? What if I decide to get breast implants, the surgery is botched, and I end up disfigured?

Essentially, I’m saying that people need to take responsibility for their own actions. You can’t sue someone because they didn’t stop you from doing something.

I do see your point but drink driving is illegal anyway.
Bad health through a poor diet & smoking is gradual & can take a very long time to have an effect.
Here in the U.K., cigarette manufacturers have been forced to put huge warnings on cigaret packets along with pictures of all sorts of cancers.
TV adverts are encouraging people to drink sensibly & you can’t pick up a paper or watch TV without seeng an article on healthy eating.
People are aware of the physical health risks of this & make their choice being well informed.
I wonder just how many young girls & women who have had a termination who were well informed of the actually mental consequences of a termination.
Not to many I think & here lays my point.
I believe a case could be made on these grounds

 

[LisaA]

I do see your point but drink driving is illegal anyway.
Bad health through a poor diet & smoking is gradual & can take a very long time to have an effect.
Here in the U.K., cigarette manufacturers have been forced to put huge warnings on cigaret packets along with pictures of all sorts of cancers.
TV adverts are encouraging people to drink sensibly & you can’t pick up a paper or watch TV without seeng an article on healthy eating.
People are aware of the physical health risks of this & make their choice being well informed.
I wonder just how many young girls & women who have had a termination who were well informed of the actually mental consequences of a termination.
Not to many I think & here lays my point.
I believe a case could be made on these grounds

If you hear testimonials from both abortion clinic workers and women who’ve had abortions you will find out that they really do not give them much information. I remember one woman saying the didn’t even tell her how much pain she’d have and she said it was the most horrible thing she went through. This is not the standard of medical care and these abortuaries have gotten away with it for decades. I think the Gosnell case has really brought a lot of these terrible practices to light.

Lisa

 

[Joie_de_Vivre]

Do you think that a strong case for pro life could be Law suits against the state by women who have suffered through abortion & the mental health issues caused by being encouraged & legally being allowed to have one.
I don’t know if this legal avenue has ever been explored but just imagine if just 1% of women who have been through this sad situation filed law suits
That would make our governments sit up & take notice

They probably lack standing for said lawsuits and even if they did have standing it’d be quite difficult to prove that the abortion caused those mental health issues.

I don’t think it’s necessary to sue. One of the most effective tools against abortion are organizations like Silent No More and others where women give their testimonies about how much they suffered emotional and physical anguish following their abortion. It is sold as “no fuss, no muss” and a way to solve a problem But what many many women learn is that they only trade a temporary inconvenience for a lifetime of regret and sorrow.

The current regime is very pro abortion and tries to squelch information that is negative about the effects of abortion, mental, emotional and physical. However there are more and more large studies in other countries where multiple abortions are very common (India and China) as well as in America that demonstrate a serious uptick in breast cancer rates and other lasting effects of abortion. The Left can belittle religion or pro life people but they have a hard time arguing with research backed truth about abortion.

LIsa

Breast cancer rates increase (slightly) the more menstrual cycles a woman has, as a result of this women having fewer children on average equates to more breast cancer on average; less breastfeeding increases risks. Additionally increased fat accumulation in young girls makes the average age of menarche lower.

 

[LisaA]

Breast cancer rates increase (slightly) the more menstrual cycles a woman has, as a result of this women having fewer children on average equates to more breast cancer on average; less breastfeeding increases risks. Additionally increased fat accumulation in young girls makes the average age of menarche lower.

Ummmm this is not what the studies indicated. These were very large studies and there was a pretty compelling case for the hormonal “shock” of pregnancy followed by termination as having a significant effect on breast cancer development.

If it were just a matter of small families we’d see the same thing in Europe where they are not even replacing themselves. China and India are particularly significant due to the huge size of the study and the incidence of multiple abortions.

Lisa

 

[KimberlyCat]

No. Because it’s her choice.

 

[Cricket2]

Do you think that a strong case for pro life could be Law suits against the state by women who have suffered through abortion & the mental health issues caused by being encouraged & legally being allowed to have one.
I don’t know if this legal avenue has ever been explored but just imagine if just 1% of women who have been through this sad situation filed law suits
That would make our governments sit up & take notice

Sorry, but I doubt another law suit would provide the answer your looking for. A better avenue would be researching mental health care stats on those who suffer from depression as a result of having an abortion, rate of suicide among those who have had abortions and so on.

In the end I don’t think we can ever really measure the actual mental health or physical health cost to society. How do we measure the "scientist that was never born that would discover the cure for cancer, or MS, or Lupus, or BiPolar Disorders; a woman’s inability to ever have a child again due to an abortion that went wrong or cause severe injury; or the birth of that one teacher that could help a child somewhere become a great musician, artist, nurse…How do we measure the cost of lost lives at anytime?

 

[petra22]

In the end I don’t think we can ever really measure the actual mental health or physical health cost to society. How do we measure the "scientist that was never born that would discover the cure for cancer, or MS, or Lupus, or BiPolar Disorders; a woman’s inability to ever have a child again due to an abortion that went wrong or cause severe injury; or the birth of that one teacher that could help a child somewhere become a great musician, artist, nurse…How do we measure the cost of lost lives at anytime?

It makes me sad to think about it…

 

[captainrick]

If you hear testimonials from both abortion clinic workers and women who’ve had abortions you will find out that they really do not give them much information. I remember one woman saying the didn’t even tell her how much pain she’d have and she said it was the most horrible thing she went through. This is not the standard of medical care and these abortuaries have gotten away with it for decades. I think the Gosnell case has really brought a lot of these terrible practices to light.

Lisa

A suit against the government would not be successful, but what about malpractice suits against the Dr., nurses, etc., for not obtaining informed consent?

 

[LisaA]

A suit against the government would not be successful, but what about malpractice suits against the Dr., nurses, etc., for not obtaining informed consent?

Actually many of these abortionists HAVE been sued. It came out in the Gosnell trial that the reason he was still working like a madman was the many lawsuits dogging him for his botched abortions. It was the death of the woman that finally opened the eyes of those in the neighborhood as well as state officials to what was going on in that clinic. Similarly the late term abortionists like Cathart have also been sued.

The undercover work has demonstrated that the clinic workers are often ill equipped and untrained but still giving medical advice. The girls often don’t see the doctor until they are up on the table with their feet in the stirrups.

Of course when states pass laws requiring inspections, that abortionists have certain equipment, access to hospitals, etc the abortion lobby raises a fuss claiming all it is, is a back door restriction on abortion.

LIsa

 

[animalis]

“The Lord give you peace!” St. Francis

“He was offered because it was his own will, and he opened not his mouth: he shall be led as a sheep to the slaughter, and shall be dumb as a lamb before his shearer, and he shall not open his mouth.” (Isa 53:7)

 

[on_the_hill]

Do you think that a strong case for pro life could be Law suits against the state by women who have suffered through abortion & the mental health issues caused by being encouraged & legally being allowed to have one.
I don’t know if this legal avenue has ever been explored but just imagine if just 1% of women who have been through this sad situation filed law suits
That would make our governments sit up & take notice

No way. I"m against abortion, but as it’s legal in this country, the mother makes a choice. It’s not the government’s fault if she makes a choice she can’t live with.

 

[petra22]

In defense of these poor women. I’m thinking most think they have no choice. Either society tells her she will lose her freedom, or her “man” tells her he will leave her if she has the baby. I’m sure there are other scenarios, but it is sad that women feel trapped by their own behavior… and a little pressure from outside sources. I feel sorry for them, because I think Jesus’ words make sense here. “Father forgive them for they know not what they do…” And when they come to the realization… it’s traumatic…

 

[Cricket2]

In defense of these poor women. I’m thinking most think they have no choice. Either society tells her she will lose her freedom, or her “man” tells her he will leave her if she has the baby. I’m sure there are other scenarios, but it is sad that women feel trapped by their own behavior… and a little pressure from outside sources. I feel sorry for them, because I think Jesus’ words make sense here. “Father forgive them for they know not what they do…” And when they come to the realization… it’s traumatic…

I have to agree with you. Many are just terrified of parental response if they are minors, others have boyfriends or husbands even, that give them the ultimate “get rid of it” threat, some believe that science has the right ideas and when doctors tell them they are going to die if they continue the pregnancy they panic, some are victims of incest and rape. And if they even are in the category of those that would keep the baby if they had help they don’t who to talk to, or where to go.

My maternal grandmother was forced by my grandfather to have two abortions. He was a violent drunkard and did not want anymore children. In her day she had no say at all, he got the doctor to come to the house or threatened to do it himself. Where was her free will and choice then? It haunted her, her entire life.

One of my uncles married a woman who’s own parents made her have an abortion because she was deaf and they felt that this made her less than an idiot, let alone unfit to have a child. She was never able to get pregnant again and literally became mentally ill for the majority of her life because of it.

If we want to prevent and stop abortions we need to be that place all women can come to for help, financial help, help with housing, help with food and clothing and medical needs. If we don’t become that place all the laws in the world mean nothing at all.