Abortion: unwanted or illegal?

[HerCrazierHalf]

Obviously we want a change of heart and not just law, but with how many turn to the law for moral decisions (sadly) and how it affects the whole culture it’s all interconnected.

I think it’s a tad more nuanced. When a thing is legal ppl look around and ask “are things better or worse?” SSM gained popularity after it was legalized and there was a lack of fallout directly attributable to it.

WRT abortion, lower near zero demand is the only plausible way out. Though the reasons for fewer and fewer abortions are problematic for many here.

 

[AnaCarolina7]

All of Gods creaton is wanted. Perhaps by the wrong people.

As Catholics we convey this to the birth couple and match them with adoptive couples who long for a baby.

So its illegal

 

[Kei]

I think it’s a tad more nuanced. When a thing is legal ppl look around and ask “are things better or worse?”

I really think that’s mainly if there’s a chance to actually change said law. A reversal from a ruling on the Supreme Court just isn’t likely until new justices are on it.
The culture informs the law which informs the culture which informs the law which informs the culture etc etc. It’s a big cycle. Change from the heart is what is ultimately needed, but change in the law sure would help. We have been generally decreasing around the time SCOTUS allowed states to put limits on abortion access, for instance, which probably isn’t just coincidence. If you cannot safely and legally eliminate the growing child in your womb, then that would act as a big deterrent. They both have to follow one another, in my opinion, and the prolife message has grown a lot. To be frank I think a SCOTUS decision could put us over the top relatively soon if everything goes well. I think if that were to happen paired with more funding to prolife crisis pregnancy centers, cheaper ways to give birth etc would really do amazing work in this field.

 

[MNathaniel]

As others pointed out, the obvious only answer to desire is: “both”.

Of course we should help people develop the good character to not choose murder, but in the meantime, murder should never be codified as legal (to use your phrase).

Laws can either be complicit in individual evil, or not complicit in individual evil.

We can’t control whether individuals choose murder. We can choose whether we socially codify murder as permissible.

The society that has a law against abortion, thereby codifying into law your beliefs, but where there are folks who would want an abortion if it was legal but are unable to get one. Or, a society that believes in the legal right to abortion, but there are very few women who seek one?

The bolded bit makes a huge difference to the baby, friend.

Think Gianna Jessen. She was literally born after her mother’s attempt at abortion failed.

Seems glad to be alive and not to think it’d be all the same if she’d died that day as scheduled. Babies born to begrudging parents (like those in your hypothetical who want to kill their children but are unable to) still get to live. Key point.

Sure, the moral character of murderous parents is bad, and that’s bad.

But their children get a chance to grow up and develop moral character of their own. And that’s good.