Abortion

[limerick]

Why would ones right to life depend on the label given to the stage of development it is in?

**Hey, Bob, I already killed one human being. Why are you asking me?

Limerick**

 

[limerick]

It is a child who is conceived. Abortion kills a child.

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You’re such a sweet granny.

L**

 

[st_lucy]

**And what of a fetus? Same thing? Or perhaps even more so if it furthers your cause?

Limerick**

A fetus is a baby since it is latin for little one. Meaning little human which is the stage before infant, which is the stage most parents call a baby.

 

[jake23]

Perhaps, but I’m sure my premises would be rejected before they are even considered.

Actually, I would be preventing the person from existing to begin with (that is, if we’re accepting my definition of “person”). But tell me this: what’s the difference between a woman getting an abortion and a woman that planned on having a child deciding against it? Both prevent the existence of a potential person, but only one is frowned upon. Why do you feel this is so?

Thats kind of silly because a child in the womb is alive. It is silly to think that they are not alive until they are out of the womb. I watch my first borns little heart beating in my wifes womb at six weeks! it was a beutiful thing. I was almost aborted my my mother until she was confronted by a religiouse family member. I was born ofcourse and live on the streets, I was beaten, starved and deprived and so on…There isnt a day that goes buy that I dont thank God that I am alive.

On another note you dont believe in God but you have no proof that there is not, therefore it is ignorant of you to joine a religiouse web sight and beat around the bush about your own personal beliefs that you cannot confirm until you are dead. I will pray for you!

 

[Gabriella_San_S]

**Hey, Bob, I already killed one human being. Why are you asking me?

Limerick**

Dear soul, I am so sorry for your losses, for your “little one” and for your husband. You have experienced more pain in this life than many people will ever know. I am sorry that you have had to endure such suffering. You are still and have always been a beloved child of God, and He knows what you are going through. He loves you infinitely, His mercy is endless. “Cast your burdens on Him, for He cares for you…” And I am praying for you, dear
one. It took a lot of courage for you to join this discussion.Thank you.
I believe you will be set free from the weight you have had to bear these many years…
Peace be with you.

 

[limerick]

**Thank you, Gabriella.

Limerick**

 

[limerick]

A fetus is a baby since it is latin for little one. Meaning little human which is the stage before infant, which is the stage most parents call a baby.

**I’m sorry, you are incorrect.

“fetus”: an unborn** or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically: a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth.
**
“fetus” does not show anywhere in my references as Latin for “little one”****.
**
Its etymology is thus: Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring;* akin to **Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful.

• Britannica World Language Edition of Funk & Wagnalls New Practical Standard Dictionary**

Limerick

 

[grannymh]

I’m sorry, you are incorrect.

"fetus": an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically: a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth.*
**
**“fetus” does not show anywhere in my references as Latin for “little one”****.

Its etymology is thus: Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful.

*** Britannica World Language Edition of Funk & Wagnalls New Practical Standard Dictionary**

Limerick

What species or kind is this unhatched vertebrate at conception?

 

[limerick]

What species or kind is this unhatched vertebrate at conception?

**The “unhatched” category includes creatures such as birds, tadpoles and reptiles. And tadpoles are not considered vertebrates until they hatch. What are they at conception? A tadpole is a tadpole until it becomes a frog, toad or salamander, so it is still in the fetal stage but is only considered a vertebrate after it hatches. The unhatched bird is also first an embryo, then a fetus. The unhatched reptile is also first an embryo, then a fetus.

Unborn human? Embryo. Then fetus.

Limerick**

 

[grannymh]

The “unhatched” category includes creatures such as birds, tadpoles and reptiles. And tadpoles are not considered vertebrates until they hatch. What are they at conception? A tadpole is a tadpole until it becomes a frog, toad or salamander, so it is still in the fetal stage but is only considered a vertebrate after it hatches. The unhatched bird is also first an embryo, then a fetus. The unhatched reptile is also first an embryo, then a fetus.

**Unborn human? Embryo. Then fetus. **

Limerick

“Unborn human? Embryo. Then fetus.”

FYI
In another forum, I’m dealing with part of the evolutionary theory and part of philosophy so am drawing from both. I do not intend to go off topic here, but rather to put some common sense to life within the womb.

Pardon me. With all the discussion on this thread, I’ve lost track of personal opinions regarding abortion so I’m directing this post to the interesting ideas presented above.

Why would there be a question mark after Unborn human? Embryo. Then fetus. It seems to me that the essence of a human would be present from conception in the same way that the essence of a frog is in a tadpole.

As a kid, we found tadpoles and somehow brought them home and put them in a fish bowl to watch them become frogs. There was no doubt in our curious minds that what we brought home were really frogs. Needless to say that the tadpoles did not adapt to their new environment and we got a good talking to about tampering with nature.

In the same manner, wouldn’t it be right to consider a human a human being from the point of conception with natural rights to a proper environment?

Blessings,
granny

All human beings are worthy of profound respect.

 

[fix]

**The word “baby” has the warm, fuzzy, endearing, innocent, angelic connotation which has the potential to influence. Do not discount the power of words.
**

That is right. That is why the pro abortion folks keeping saying pro choice. A baby, born or not, is still a baby.

 

[Gabriella_San_S]

That is right. That is why the pro abortion folks keeping saying pro choice. A baby, born or not, is still a baby.

My sons have t-shirts that say,

"If he’s not alive, why is his heart beating?

"If he’s not a human being, ***what kind ***of being is he?

"If he’s a** living human being**,*** why*** is it** legal** to** kill** him?

A picture of a “living, human being” is next to the words.
Words are powerful.
And a picture “paints a thousand words…”

Another powerful bumper sticker has a picture of a tiny newborn baby girl and says,
“Kill her today, and it’s called murder, kill her yesterday, and it’s called abortion.”
(unless she was an infant that survived abortion, then it’s** legal** infanticide.) Our president voted** NOT** to give any protection to her when he was a Senator in Illinois.) What a guy.

 

[estesbob]

That is right. That is why the pro abortion folks keeping saying pro choice. A baby, born or not, is still a baby.

Which is why abortion discussions so often get bogged down in semantics arguments. Endless discussions about the proper terminology to use-all designed to keep the focus away from exactly what abortion is.

 

[Barb3]

I am going to add this thought to this forum – it’s something I’ve said (and thought) for a long, long time – it’s this: If they were doing this to animals (aborting them) the animal rights acticvists would be protesting and marching around the White House, and the press would be with them.
Do you think I’m right???

 

[limerick]

It is a child who is conceived. Abortion kills a child.

Abortion terminates the gestation of a fetus, thereby quashing its potential to become a child.

I’m not a grandmother, but I’m old enough to be one, and even I know that.

“Fetus”: fundamental biology. “Baby”: rhetorical melodrama.

Limerick

 

[limerick]

I am going to add this thought to this forum – it’s something I’ve said (and thought) for a long, long time – it’s this: If they were doing this to animals (aborting them) the animal rights acticvists would be protesting and marching around the White House, and the press would be with them.
Do you think I’m right???

**Animal rights activists don’t need to protest abortions among animals, but they do address other issues with regard to slaughter of animals already breathing, the killing of species that are endangered, the loss of habitat for many animals, etc. So rest assured that animal rights activists are protesting, though I’ve never seen them march around the White House. The press attends as assigned.

They can get policies changed; why can’t pro-lifers?

Limerick**

 

[st_lucy]

Abortion terminates the gestation of a fetus, thereby quashing its potential to become a child.

I’m not a grandmother, but I’m old enough to be one, and even I know that.

“Fetus”: fundamental biology. “Baby”: rhetorical melodrama.

Limerick

So what you are saying is the three children I give birth to at 7 weeks, 9 weeks and twelve weeks where not children but something else (whatever it is you consider a fetus)? Right!?

How considerate, because what I held in my hands definitely looked like a human they had two arms and two legs beautiful eyes and perfect little noses. And next I am sitting alone and thinking of these little angels I will have to remind myself that I am not morning the lose of my children but of a fetus (fill in the blank of what it is YOU think a fetus is)

This is what gets me about the pro-abortion groups, they cry out pro-woman, and how compassionate they are towards women, but then they will tell a women that her child was not a child but something else.

 

[limerick]

So what you are saying is the three children I give birth to at 7 weeks, 9 weeks and twelve weeks where not children but something else (whatever it is you consider a fetus)? Right!?

How considerate, because what I held in my hands definitely looked like a human they had two arms and two legs beautiful eyes and perfect little noses. And next I am sitting alone and thinking of these little angels I will have to remind myself that I am not morning the lose of my children but of a fetus (fill in the blank of what it is YOU think a fetus is)

This is what gets me about the pro-abortion groups, they cry out pro-woman, and how compassionate they are towards women, but then they will tell a women that her child was not a child but something else.

**I’m not making this stuff up. Look it up under human gestation, biology or pregnancy.

I’ve had two spontaneous abortions myself and held that tissue in my hands. I never considered them “my babies”. They were each a fetus, likely from blighted ova.

It doesn’t matter to me if you refer to one as “Little Johnny”, but you would be in error to call it a baby.

Limerick**

 

[st_lucy]

**I’m not making this stuff up. Look it up under human gestation, biology or pregnancy.

I’ve had two spontaneous abortions myself and held that tissue in my hands. I never considered them “my babies”. They were each a fetus, likely from blighted ova.

It doesn’t matter to me if you refer to one as “Little Johnny”, but you would be in error to call it a baby.

Limerick**

That is very heartless. These are children they look like children because they are children. my youngest was 7 weeks old and the child did not look like a bunch of tissue.

My Baby at 7weeks

Although she still resembles a tiny alien, your baby’s facial features are starting to form. Arms, legs, hands, and feet are taking shape, although they don’t yet have fingers and toes. The brain is growing more complex; if you looked through a microscope, it would be clearly visible through the transparent skull. The embryo has started to move in small jerks, although you won’t feel these until the fourth month.

Isn’t it funny how everyone calls the fetus a baby if she is wanted but if she is not wanted they call her a fetus or bunch of tissue. SICK and sad. And it is even sadder, when a mother can look and hold her child in her hands and so carelessly dispose of her. My heart breaks for you.

 

[fix]

I’m not making this stuff up. Look it up under human gestation, biology or pregnancy.

How would that prove your point? Different nomenclature does not change the essence of what a human is. The baby, born or unborn, teenager, senior citizen are all persons regadless of stage of development.
Calling something by another name does not change what it is. Too bad that is is exactly what the pro abort folks want to do. They want to change the language in hopes people will stop viewing reality as it is but rather view it as they desire.