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devoutchristian said:
Originally Posted by Aussieman88
If he doesn’t believe in the trinity, it doesn’t matter. You should assure him he’s going to be ok so long as he has accepted Jesus to be his lord and saviour
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Of course it isn’t. The bolded part is classic Evangelical Protestant.

Still, how likely is it that someone facing death can be successfully taught the Trinity? At the bitter end of human life, is it really doable to fill a weary head with theology that taxes the minds of the young and strong?

I imagine Purgatory is full of people with incomplete theology. Maybe even some in Heaven.

Just my NAAHO.

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I used those words because that’s what our dying friend would be familiar with. Not Catholic teaching but none the less true. It means he’s accepted Jesus as being the son of God and he’s accepted that Jesus rose from the dead. It means that he’s accepted that Jesus paid for his sins to be forgiven. AND THAT MEANS HE’S SAVED. You don’t get condemned for not understanding the whole bible.

It’s not only us catholics going to heaven you know.
 
Grace, Remind him of Romans 10,9

If you attended Mass this morning, or last night’s vigil, you heard Romans 10:9 as part of the second reading.
'for, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved. For one believes with the heart and so is justified,
and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved.

I borrowed this from the áre protestants saved thread.
 
It is absolutely not true that faith alone gets one into Heaven. Besides, theological faith necessitates belief in the Trinity.
 
ok now your just making it confusing. If it’s confusing then God is not in it.
 
I am so glad that none of ya’ll are getting to decide who gets into Heaven.

Maybe its my age (nearly 40) but I completely lack the strength to debate half of the things in this thread.

Invincible ignorance is simply rampant in the “united states”. Especially in Dixie where its easily 75% Protestant except for in Louisiana.

Theologans have fought over these issues for centuries. We definitely aren’t going to convince anyone, especially someone close to death, to change their minds. I would even go so far as to say it is a disservice to the dying to try and change their minds on theology. Leave that to forums and university classrooms.
 
Reuben_J said:
My sympathy to your father-in-law as he goes through his sickness. It is natural that we fear death because it is a thing of the unknown. A word of comfort if it does, is that death is a certainty which everyone of us will go through. It is just a matter of when. As Christians we do not afraid of it, though we do not seek it but when it comes we will welcome it. The reason is because of Jesus and his promise that even though we die we will live because we believe. Thus death does not defeat us and in fact it is a victory for those Christians who depart from this world remembering that greater reward would await us.

Probably that is easier said than done but let’s know that God does not condemn us to hell. We do not know whether we will go to hell. We know however that salvation comes from Jesus and if we believe we will be saved. Of course that is a minimal requirement but nevertheless that knowledge should comfort us. And besides we do still have time to approach God even in dying to seek his forgiveness and mercy by really trying to return to him.

God bless.
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Right on, Rueben. Ro 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, (KJV)

Ro 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (KJV)

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (KJV)

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (KJV)

1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. (KJV)

1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? (KJV)

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. (KJV)

1Co 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. (KJV)

1Co 15:58 ¶ Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. (KJV)

Lord bless,
QC
 
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