about The Son in the Trinity

[memnoch_lover]

Premises
1, There is no way God can think of Himself except that which He really is.
Therefore, God’s thought of Himself is absolutely, completely, infinitely exactly like Himself , a perfect image or idea that God has of Himself.

1. It is the nature of God to exist on His own, then God’s thought of Himself being exactly, absolutely, completely, infinitely exactly like God, also has a nature to exist on its own, a living thought that God has of Himself, otherwise it is absolutely exact.
   Therefore in one God there exist two distinct and independent existence,having each a nature to exist on its own,
   a. that of God whom we call Father
   b. that of God’s exact thought of Himself whom we call “logos” or “Word” or " Son"

am i logically wrong in my premises? if there is, where and why?
refute using deductive reasoning

 

[JimG]

Your premise is good. I would nit-pick only your use of the term “nature.” Nature is defined as what something is, it’s essence. God is one and can have only one nature. So the Son, in being the Father’s perfect expression of Himself (which is why John calls him the Word), is a distinct Person but not a distinct nature. Both Father and Son equally possess the one Divine Nature.

 

[jcaz]

Looks like memnoch_lover is rewritting some Catholic Theology.

:ehh:

 

[Writer]

memnoch_lover:

Premises
1, There is no way God can think of Himself except that which He really is.
Therefore, God’s thought of Himself is absolutely, completely, infinitely exactly like Himself , a perfect image or idea that God has of Himself.

1. It is the nature of God to exist on His own, then God’s thought of Himself being exactly, absolutely, completely, infinitely exactly like God, also has a nature to exist on its own, a living thought that God has of Himself, otherwise it is absolutely exact.
   Therefore in one God there exist two distinct and independent existence,having each a nature to exist on its own,
   a. that of God whom we call Father
   b. that of God’s exact thought of Himself whom we call “logos” or “Word” or " Son"

am i logically wrong in my premises? if there is, where and why?
refute using deductive reasoning

Not sure that God “thinks” the way we can understand. Since He is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and has omniscience concerning all things, His “thoughts” are not going to be anything like what we can understand–e.g. no changing of opinion, no self-questioning, no doubt. This is like a fly explaining what a human feels when he writes a book or paints a picture. I think you’re out of your depth, buddy!

 

[Andrea22]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry.

The way I explain the trinity to myself is this:

Since we were created in God’s “likeness” I just have to look at myself: I have a body, a mind, and a soul. Within myself exists an absolute trinity. Why can’t it be the same with God? To finish the comparison: The Son is the body, The Father is the mind, and the Holy Spirit is the soul… all still one and the same.

Just my two cents.