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God gave Moses the Ten Commandmnts …

Does this mean that there are only Ten Difffernt sins/ Ten different ways to possibly sin?
 
Friends,

God gave Moses the Ten Commandmnts …

Does this mean that there are only Ten Difffernt sins/ Ten different ways to possibly sin?
Are we discussing the “10 Commandments” from Exodus 20 or from Exodus 34?🙂
 
There was only 10 commandments, yet there were over 600 Mosaic laws. Jesus simplified it when he fulfilled the Law.
Peace be with you
gmcbroom
 
There was only 10 commandments, yet there were over 600 Mosaic laws. Jesus simplified it when he fulfilled the Law.
Peace be with you
gmcbroom
Then I’d have to go with the list in Exodus 34…verse 28 says these are “the ten commandments”.🤷
 
Friends,

God gave Moses the Ten Commandmnts …

Does this mean that there are only Ten Difffernt sins/ Ten different ways to possibly sin?
Not in the way you state it. 🙂 They tell us, in brief, what is morally right and wrong. All sins have their basis in them, but they don’t tell us every sin we can commit. The Catechism of the Catholic Church discusses them, outlining what they mean to us as Christians. You should read that section of the CCC for clarification of this issue.
 
Friends,

God gave Moses the Ten Commandmnts …

Does this mean that there are only Ten Difffernt sins/ Ten different ways to possibly sin?
Wouldn’t that be great. Unfortunately there are more ways to sin then we could count. Just look at the world, look at the way people act, treat one another.

There are different kinds of sin. Mortal sin, venial sin.
 
I think the Ten Commandments covers, generally, all the sins, but you have to extrapolate.

A few years back, a doctor I saw (who was some sort of Protestant Christian) started giving me a hard time about following the Catholic Church’s stand regarding artificial birth control. He said that birth control was not spoken against in Scripture.

In a letter I wrote to him (after I swore I’d never be seen in his office again!) I told him that the Church’s view on ABC could be seen in the first Commandment.

If one places another god (like pleasure or convenience) in place of the REAL God, you are sinning. I think ABC could fall into this category, although it is not explicitly stated.

He didn’t reply.
 
There was only 10 commandments, yet there were over 600 Mosaic laws. Jesus simplified it when he fulfilled the Law.
I wouldn’t say He simplified the 613 laws, He added in the Spirit of the law.

For instance, He said that a man commits adultery when …

Matthew 5:27-30

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

“If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.”

Matthew 5: 17-18

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished.”

Matthew 19:9 “I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Mark 10:11 “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.”

Mark 10:12 “And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”

Luke 16:18 “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”

Compare adultery in the Old Testament:

Exodus 20:14 “You shall not commit adultery.”

Deuteronomy 22:22 “If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die.”

Leviticus 20:10 “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.”

Proverbs 6:32 “But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself.”

Leviticus 21:9 “And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.”

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 “If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.”
 
jewfaq.org/613.htm

A listing of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

Many are the same basic laws, but are intertwined to fit various situations, which increases the number of Commandments.

Also, the Jews had positive and negative sins (acts of commision and acts of omission) and the numbers of sins increase there as well stating encouraging behavior toward God and neighbor and discouraging negative behaviors against God and neighbor.
 
I think it’s safer to say that there are 10 categories of sin that draw us away from holiness and unity with Jesus and our neighbor.

The first three Commandments concern our relationship with God and the last seven concern our relationship with our neighbors.

The Catechism details the Commandments at:

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P78.HTM

Paragraphs 2052 - 2557

Guidesheets for adult examinations are also available online.

catholicparents.org/oxcart/Examination%20of%20Conscience.pdf
 
Friends,

God gave Moses the Ten Commandmnts …

Does this mean that there are only Ten Difffernt sins/ Ten different ways to possibly sin?
For your consideration…
Pax Christi


Catechism:
II. THE DEFINITION OF SIN
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Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience; it is failure in genuine love for God and neighbor caused by a perverse attachment to certain goods. It wounds the nature of man and injures human solidarity. It has been defined as "an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law."121
III. THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF SINS
1852
There are a great many kinds of sins. Scripture provides several lists of them. The Letter to the Galatians contrasts the works of the flesh with the fruit of the Spirit: "Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God."127
1853 Sins can be distinguished according to their objects, as can every human act; or according to the virtues they oppose, by excess or defect; or according to the commandments they violate. They can also be classed according to whether they concern God, neighbor, or oneself; they can be divided into spiritual and carnal sins, or again as sins in thought, word, deed, or omission. The root of sin is in the heart of man, in his free will, according to the teaching of the Lord: "For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a man."128 But in the heart also resides charity, the source of the good and pure works, which sin wounds.121 St. Augustine, Contra Faustum 22:PL 42,418; St. Thomas Aquinas, STh I-II,71,6.
127 Gal 5:19-21; cf. Rom 1:28-32; 1 Cor 6:9-10; Eph 5:3-5; Col 3:5-9; 1 Tim 1:9-10; 2 Tim 3:2-5.
128 Mt 15:19-20.
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
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The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christians and that the justified man is still bound to keep them;28 the **Second Vatican Council confirms: **"The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments."29
2071 The commandments of the Decalogue, although accessible to reason alone, have been revealed. To attain a complete and certain understanding of the requirements of the natural law, sinful humanity needed this revelation:

A full explanation of the commandments of the Decalogue became **necessary in the state of sin because the light of reason was obscured and the will had gone astray.**32 We know God’s commandments through the divine revelation proposed to us in the Church, and through the voice of moral conscience.

The obligation of the Decalogue

2072
Since they express man’s fundamental duties towards God and towards his neighbor, the** Ten Commandments reveal, in their primordial content, *grave *obligations. They are fundamentally immutable, and they oblige always and everywhere. No one can dispense from them. **The Ten Commandments are engraved by God in the human heart.
2073 Obedience to the Commandments also implies obligations in matter which is, in itself, light. Thus **abusive language is forbidden by the fifth commandment, but would be a grave offense only as a result of circumstances or the offender’s intention.
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"Apart from me you can do nothing"
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Jesus says: "I am the vine, you are the branches**. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing."33 The fruit referred to in this saying is the holiness of a life made fruitful by union with Christ. When we believe in Jesus Christ, partake of his mysteries, and keep his commandments, the Savior himself comes to love, in us, his Father and his brethren, our Father and our brethren. His person becomes, through the Spirit, the living and interior rule of our activity.** "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you."3428 Cf. DS 1569-1570.
29 LG 24.
32 St. Bonaventure, Comm. sent. 4,37,1,3.
33 Jn 15:5.
34 Jn 15:12.
 
There are two kinds of sin: to not love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.

The other: to not love your neighbor as yourself.
 
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Are we discussing the “10 Commandments” from Exodus 20 or from Exodus 34?🙂
Exo. 20, and Duet.4:13

God Bless,

Pat
 
Exo. 20, and Duet.4:13

God Bless,

Pat
Ahhh…just trying to clarify…Ex34:28 says that the preceeding verses are “the ten commandments”…OP didn’t specify which set of “10 commandments” were being discussed.🙂
 
If even one sin is possible that is not covered by the 10 commandments I have no idea what it is.

But the trick is to view the commandments as 1 prime imperitive instead of 10 laws.

The scary part is that you can violate one by keeping another. An example of this is the SDA view on their Sabbath. By making Saturday Holy above and beyond all other days they become Pagan sun worshippers.

Or you have them that take the fact that God wrote the 10 commandments and they aply it to the entirety of scripture and and fall into the snare of Pagan Literature Worship.
 
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Thanks for your post.

If as you say the answer to my Q is “no”… then what do you use a criteria for sin?

God Bless,
Pat [PJM]
 
=gmcbroom;7538941]There was only 10 commandments, yet there were over 600 Mosaic laws. Jesus simplified it when he fulfilled the Law.
Peace be with you
gmcbroom
Very TRUE, as the New Cvenant did away with he Old Covenants.

So what is the criteria today for sin to be sin?

God Bless.
Pat
 
=rinnie;7538978]Wouldn’t that be great. Unfortunately there are more ways to sin then we could count. Just look at the world, look at the way people act, treat one another.
There are different kinds of sin. Mortal sin, venial sin.
So my friend, how can one know if thy have sined? And which catagory of sin is committed?

God Bless,
Pat
 
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