Absent Priest, Valid Mass?

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adrift said:
Ad hominem

You do realize that you are in the same boat as the Old Catholics, Lutherans, Baptist, who also decided what was the true Church.
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I’ve answered that already. I am differentiating between true and false teaching. Read some of the links I posted. You might learn something.
 
Sbyvl said:
I’ve answered that already. I am differentiating between true and false teaching. Read some of the links I posted. You might learn something.
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You have shown yourself to be a dishonest,hypocritical troll. What do you know about true and false?
 
Sbyvl said:
So you admit that you are against Pope Blessed Pius IX, then?

The substance of my statements are not Protestant, whereas, your heresies are. I’m not a Modernist, you are.
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Only your poor understanding of him. Of course your a modernist, you make yourself the pope.
7 Q. From whom are we to receive and learn Christian Doctrine?
A. We are to receive and learn Christian Doctrine from the Holy Catholic Church.
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8 Q. How are we certain that the Christian Doctrine which we receive from the Holy Catholic Church is really true?
A. We are certain that the doctrine which we receive from the Holy Catholic Church is true, because Jesus Christ, the divine Author of this doctrine, committed it through His Apostles to the Church, which He founded and made the infallible teacher of all men, promising her His divine assistance until the end of time.
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floresco said:
You have shown yourself to be a dishonest,hypocritical troll. What do you know about true and false?
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How am I dishonest?
How am I hypocritical?
How am I a troll?

Somehow, you continue to make these accusations, but you never back them up. It really is quite foolish.
 
adrift said:
Only your poor understanding of him. Of course your a modernist, you make yourself the pope.
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Thank you. And the Church cannot contradict herself, therefore, Vatican II must be thrown out. Thanks for proving my point.
 
Sbyvl said:
How am I dishonest?
How am I hypocritical?
How am I a troll?

Somehow, you continue to make these accusations, but you never back them up. It really is quite foolish.
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You just ignore what is written.
You certainly are a troll. You wrote this on another forum
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So I registered at CAF (Note: this is not a disparagement). The question is: how long will it take for me to banned from there? I encourage you, SD’ers, to predict how long it will take. Whomever guesses correctly gets a prize!
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When an atheist poster did the same thing on that forum you wrote:
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You and your kind are a pack of trolls. You stated on TTA that your sole purpose for being here was to see how long it was until you got banned. We consider that trolling.
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You think it is trolling when someone does it to a group you like, but you think it is just peachy to do it here.
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Sbyvl said:
Thank you. And the Church cannot contradict herself, therefore, Vatican II must be thrown out. Thanks for proving my point.
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:rolleyes:

What I showed is that the Pope is the one to listen to not someone who makes himself pope, According to you, Jesus lied. T
 
adrift said:
You just ignore what is written.
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And I responded to this. But you failed to read (Surprise). I came here to enlighten you misguided Modernists out of charity. My way of doing that involves a healthy amount of sarcasm. I believe that is an effective way to show the V-II contradictions.
 
jediliz said:
the only abuse seems to be that a woman led the service

btw, Sbyvl, do you also consider Saint John Paul the 2nd an anti pope? Though he was ordained BEFORE Vatican II, he was made pope AFTER Vatican II.
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btw, Jedlitz, just wondering what’s your basis for considering this an abuse. 😉
 
Sbyvl said:
How am I dishonest?
How am I hypocritical?
How am I a troll?

Somehow, you continue to make these accusations, but you never back them up. It really is quite foolish.
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You are a troll because you yourself said that you consider it trolling to post for a bet on how long it will take you to get banned.

You are a hypocrite because you objected to this when someone did it to your forum, but you do it to another.

You are dishonest because you have claimed to be interested in discussion. You are clearly just making trouble.
 
Sbyvl, what would you say if I told you all Latin Masses were invalid because they werent in the original Greek form of the Mass?
 
floresco said:
You are a troll because you yourself said that you consider it trolling to post for a bet on how long it will take you to get banned.

You are a hypocrite because you objected to this when someone did it to your forum, but you do it to another.

You are dishonest because you have claimed to be interested in discussion. You are clearly just making trouble.
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Modernists are so thick headed. And they don’t like to read.
 
Sbyvl said:
And I responded to this. But you failed to read (Surprise). I came here to enlighten you misguided Modernists out of charity. My way of doing that involves a healthy amount of sarcasm. I believe that is an effective way to show the V-II contradictions.
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Why does it surprise me that you believe what I have done or not done. To say there is not pope is to deny that the Holy Spirit protects the Church and that Jesus lied. You have no light so how can you enlighten. You still haven’t read my link. I don’t expect you do since you are so arrogant that you believe you know it all. You have not idea, like everything else what charity is.
 
adrift said:
Why does it surprise me that you believe what I have done or not done. To say there is not pope is to deny that the Holy Spirit protects the Church and that Jesus lied. You have no light so how can you enlighten. You still haven’t read my link. I don’t expect you do since you are so arrogant that you believe you know it all. You have not idea, like everything else what charity is.
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So between 28 February 2013 and 13 March 2013 all you Neo-Catholics said there was no pope, too. Does this mean you believe Jesus lied?
 
Sbyvl said:
There’s no Pope.
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The Church without a Pope is like a snake without a head - there is no guidance or direction whatsoever.

If there is a theological dispute between Sede bishops then how is the matter resolved? For instance, if X sede bishop disagrees with Y bishop on whether Feeneyism is a heresy, what final authority is there is to resolve the dilemma?
 
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