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missmydad
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Does anyone know of any abuses by protestants as a group? Not individuals like Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Baker, but something (on a smaller scale, I’m sure) like the Inquisition?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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RyanL
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missmydad
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Thanks,
Were Catholics specifically targeted by the Nazis as were the Jewish people?
Maximillian Kolbe and John Paul the Great, were they pursued because of their Catholicism, and was Hitler a claimant of any Christian faith?
Were Catholics specifically targeted by the Nazis as were the Jewish people?
Maximillian Kolbe and John Paul the Great, were they pursued because of their Catholicism, and was Hitler a claimant of any Christian faith?
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LilyM
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Well, King Henry VIII of England imprisoned and executed scores if not hundreds of lay people and religious who refused to accept his attempts to assume headship of the Church in England. He also executed many who refused to renounce their allegiance to the Pope (in essence their Catholicism). The most famous victims were probably his Chancellors, Cardinal Wolsey and Sir Thomas More, and Bishop Fisher.
There were also many orders of monks and nuns who had their abbeys, monasteries and convents disbanded, many were literally demolished totally or partially and their property and valuables taken over by the King.
Under his daughter, Elizabeth I, there were also great restrictions placed on the ability of Catholics to practice their faith in England and imprisonments and executions of prominent Catholics, including St Edmund Campion. In fairness, many of Elizabeth’s actions seem to have been inspired by plots against her throne, and even her life, which were supported by Popes Pius V and Gregory XIII.
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Sean_Boyle
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These imperial restrictions carried over into Ireland which was part of the “british empire” at the time. The potato famine in Ireland was thought to be influenced by the division between the protestant monarchy versus the catholic tenant farmers in Ireland by historians. There would not have been the loss of live from the famine if the population of Ireland had been of the protestant faith. It’s been widely accepted that the population of the island of Ireland decreased by 4 million people due to immigration and some starvation a direct result of the famine and restrictions on practicing the Faith.
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Daniel_Marsh
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homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html
google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Hitler%27s+Anti+christian+quotes&spell=1
In order to defend against these quotes one would have to depend on white racists for their so-called pro-christian quotes. Read the link to get a fuller picture of hitler.
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VociMike
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Yes, the Nazis targeted Catholic religious. In Dachau there was a barracks that specifically housed Catholic priests. It was even called the priest barracks.
But the Nazis were not Protestant in any useful sense of the world. They were pre-Christian pagans if anything.
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plh
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I seem to remember in another thread that in Mexico and/or South America the protestants - Masons did not allow Catholics to practice their faith for possibly decades during the
20th century. I may have this a little bit wrong.
20th century. I may have this a little bit wrong.
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RCCDefender
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During the birth of America Catholics were discriminated against as well. I know of one Catholic orphanage that was burned down as a result of a riot against Catholics. Catholics were not allowed to hold public office, children were taught to play anti-Catholic games such as “Break the Pope’s neck,” and an effigy of the pope was carried around and burned on Guy Fawke’s Day. Children were also taught to hate Catholics by such means as the Horn Book - a little book that children learned lessons from - which had in it’s teaching of the ABC’s: A: Abhor the abhorrent whore of Rome.
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Sean_Boyle
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Don’t forget about the Klan in the U.S. in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s. Many, many stories about those bigots. Most of the stories would make you sick to here.
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elvisman
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The Knights of Columbus were founded largely because of anti-Catholic bias in America.
Also, read about the Martyrs of Gorkum who were tortured and hanged by Calvinists:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06651c.htm
Also, read about the Martyrs of Gorkum who were tortured and hanged by Calvinists:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06651c.htm
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momstheword
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I’m not so much looking for abuse of Catholics as much as abuse by protestants, although that abuse by protestants can be of Catholics. As you can tell, perhaps, I’m trying to point out that abuse is not exclusiive to the Catholic Church.
Thanks, and I’m sure the rest of it will come in handy later on.
Thanks, and I’m sure the rest of it will come in handy later on.
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JacktheCatholic
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Can someone add to the fact that Protestants had their own inquisitions…
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momstheword
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Wish I knew about that, it would be a great help!
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a_cermak
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Oliver Cromwell was a tyrant against Catholics in three different nations! (England, Ireland, and Scotland).
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Mystophilus
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Have you ever heard of the soupers? During the Famine, some Protestants doled out soup only to Protestants and to Catholics who converted. Those who converted, and their descendants, became known as ‘soupers’ for their infidelity.
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Mystophilus
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Irish history pretty much is a history of abuses of Catholics by Protestants and Protestants by Catholics.
It started with the theft of Irish lords’ lands by English lords during Elizabeth I’s reign, on the basis that Catholics’ loyalty could not be trusted. It continued with the subsequent invasion of Ireland under Sidney, and its accompanying violence, to be followed by Cromwell’s bloody massacres the following century, and then the Penal Laws, legal restrictions which took away the right to own land, to vote, to hold any public position (e.g., being town crier or postman), to own horses or cattle of any value, etc. Start in the Reformation section here, and just keep reading until you get sick.
The Catholic responses were no more humane.
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a_cermak
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And then for some mostly Protestant on Protestant intolerance, check out early American history and the Puritans. Among other conflicts, there was a lot of real angst about people who believed in works vs. those who believe in faith.
The witchcraft trials while probably mostly about economics may also have had something to do with religious ideologies.
The witchcraft trials while probably mostly about economics may also have had something to do with religious ideologies.
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