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At the church I attend the priest doesn’t go down the aisle at the beginning of mass. He also says the homily in front of the pews with the altar behind him. I can’t even see him when he’s down there. He also makes us say a hail mary at some point in the mass(I can’t remember when). Is this wrong?
 
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At the church I attend the priest doesn’t go down the aisle at the beginning of mass. He also says the homily in front of the pews with the altar behind him. I can’t even see him when he’s down there.
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I believe that the procession down the center aisle is only required for a “high” mass. While he should be visible to the congregation, he can be in front of the altar when giving the sermon. I believe that he is supposed to remain within the sanctuary though.
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He also makes us say a hail mary at some point in the mass(I can’t remember when). Is this wrong?
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If the Hail Mary is done after the dismissal, then it is not wrong, otherwise, I believe that it is. Although the Hail Mary is certainly a worthy prayer, no priest or bishop has the authority to alter the Mass by inserting additional prayers.
 
I am afraid I don’t know the answer to all of your questions, but I believe I can answer 2 of them.

If there is a procession it might not neccesarily have to come up the center aisle from the back, it may enter from the side, too.

I believe after mass starts teh celebrant isn’t really supposed to leave the sanctuary, but I think the rule is generally rather elasticy, as I’ve seen my conservative bishop do it (but only at confirmation have I seen this.)

I am not absolutely sure about either of my responses, so if someone knows better, please correct me.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
There is no “high Mass” in the NOM.

There is no procession at daily Mass.

The priest is to say the homily from the Ambo.

I don’t know about the Hail Mary but it may depend on when it is said.
 
There’s a procession, but he’s not in it. He waits up at the front of the church.

I’m pretty sure priests are only supposed to say the homily at the ambo. Does anyone know if it’s in the GIRM?
 
I just pulled out my GIRM, and here is what I found:

Regarding Entrance:
  1. After the people have assembled, the entrance song begins as the priest and the ministers come in. The purpose of this song is to open the celebration, intensify the unity of the gahtered people. lead their thoughts to the mystery of the season or feast, and accomplany the procession of priest and ministers. (emphasis mine)
I could not find anything in the homily section (41 and 42) that said the homily must be said from the ambo.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
During a year dedicated to Our Lady by the Holy Father, our pastor always led in the Hail Mary at each Mass. I believe it was the final prayer during the Prayers of the Faithful.

We would always say, Lord, hear our prayer for all our intentions, then at the end, the pastor would say something like, “We offer all these intentions to you, through the Immaculate Heart of Your Mother.” Then, we would recite a Hail Mary.

Since he was a fairly rigid, by the book type, I am guessing that it was acceptable (perhaps because it was a special Marian year?)

Pax Christi. <><
 
For the homily, the GIRM says:
  1. The priest, standing at the chair or at the ambo itself or, when appropriate, in another suitable place, gives the homily. When the homily is completed, a period of silence may be observed.
“Another suitable place” seems to be a code word for just about anywhere in the Church.

If the Hail Mary is an abuse, it is an abuse of the best kind. 😃
 
Our priests usually say the homily in front of the altar. Even our 81 year old retried priest likes to move around and use his hands. Our pastor, during the school Masses, walks up and down the aisle asking questions and getting right there with the students. If the priest don’t say the homily in front of the altar it is said behind the ambo.
 
Brian,

could you give me the copyright date of your GIRM? I think I have an old one, as my 136 is in regard to the Sign of Peace.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
As a deacon, we were told to stand at the Ambo. Bishop always stands in front of the pews, and sometimes our pastor likes to. I saw a photo of a fellow deacon preaching and he was not at the ambo, but close to the people. I would like to stand in front of the pews, but I’m just happy that I get to preach.

God answers…knee mail!
 
:ehh: :ehh: I suppose i need to buy a new copy then… :ehh:

Does anyone know how often they update the GIRM?

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
PioMagnus said:
:ehh: :ehh: I suppose i need to buy a new copy then… :ehh:

Does anyone know how often they update the GIRM?

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
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Why buy when it is online?

The updates are irregular. As far as I can tell, the history is -
1970, 1975, 2000, 2002 (in latin and 2003 for the English translation).
 
Where do I find it on-line?
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Why buy when it is online?

The updates are irregular. As far as I can tell, the history is -
1970, 1975, 2000, 2002 (in latin and 2003 for the English translation).
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I buy because my pastor doesn’t believe me unless its “official” ie. printed, and in book format.

I also ordered a redemptionis sacramentum for the same reason, even though I printed off a copy.

Thanks for the Info.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
Being retired, I can’t afford to buy but I sure appreciate having internet access to all the documents - what I pay for an ISP could never give me the library I have access to online.
 
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