Access To Confession

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While watching a classic episode of Mother Angelica Live tonight a caller told Mother about his experence with his priest when he needed to go to confession at a unusual hour. After that I got to thinking about how hard it would be to find a priest to hear my confession, if needed outside of the normal “business hours”. It dawned on me that I don’t even know where my pastor lives, there is no listing for a rectory for our parish in the phone book, and when you call the office after hours the message on the voice mail doesn’t tell you how to contact him, if someone needs Last Rites you have to leave a message. I realize that living in a semi-rural area has it’s drawbacks but it just never occured to me that I would ever have a hard time locating a priest outside of bankers hours if I should ever have need to.
Linda H.
 
That just seems wrong! Our parish lists in the bulletin, in addition to the regular telephone numbers for all the priests, an emergency number for after hours.
 
I live in a rural area as well, and our priest actually lives in the rectory. I have called and requested confession, as have others and set up an “appointment” with him at a time that worked for both, if I needed something right away I’m sure that contacting him, or a larger parish where the phone was always answered at the rectory would suffice and the priest there could take care of you if yours was unreachable.
 
I’m in a rural location as well. The priest technically lives in the rectory, but is usually gone for the majority of the week. I’ve had urgent need to speak to a priest before, only to be told that he won’t be back for 3 days. There’s a hospital in town as well–I really worry for those needing Last Rites, with how often the priest is gone.
 
I was surprised to learn that our priests don’t live in the rectory. The recotory is used more like a working office. While confessions & meetings can be scheduled after hours, there does not appear to be anyway to contact anyone after hours.

 
your priest who is “gone” for 3 days at a time is probably over at the other 2 or 3 parishes he also pastors, any suggestions how a priest who is not Padre Pio can bilocate?
 
Actually, he’s not–the secretary always informs me that he’s visiting family several hours away. I’m a big pro-family person, so I understand the desire to visit family. The next closest parish is over an hour each direction, so I don’t have the option of going to a different priest for confession. I can’t wait until we move–the area we’re looking at has a ton of priests! It’ll be a nice change.
 
Actually, I am blessed to live in an area where we have a sufficient number of priests and a good number of seminarians in training. Even so, in our large parishes our priests still can not keep up with all the demands.

And there are many areas of the country which are not similarly blessed. I’ve heard of several LARGE parishes in Texas that are without a priest.

We need to pray constantly for our priests, and pray for vocations. If there is a Serra Club in your vicinity, consider joining.
 
I am not surprised that I am not alone in having this concern on how to reach my pastor after hours. I have gone back to re-read the history of my parish ( I have only been a member there since the begining of Lent), and did find a reference to a rectory near our church, although it didn’t say which house it is. Needless to say I won’t be going around in the middle of the night banging on doors to find father to hear my confession. I try to always remember all the priest of our Holy Mother Church in my prayers, and I pray that more holy men will answer the Fathers call to His service.

Linda H.
 
Grettings, all! :tiphat:

As a parish priest, I am surprised and really pleased and appreciative of the several posts above that are realistic. I see that many of you do realize that when we are not here at the phone, it means we are busy with the person who got to us before you did. Unfortunately, many priests either can’t say “no” or they don’t want to deal with the vicious screaming people and nastygrams to himself and his bishop, so they run themselves ragged and burn out, and then are no good to anyone.

In my position, for example,. we were three parishes that I amalgameted into one. We have two priests, and an additional 3 cemeteries. When the three parishes were fucntioning individually, up to just a few years ago, there were 7 priests managing all of this.

It’s do able, for sure! Just that both priests and people need to be understanding and respectful and keep themselves mentally healthy. I am very very encouraged to see that there acutlaly ARE people who understand that. My thanks and prayers to you. 🙂

Regarding the Padre Pio comment, I have used it many times or, I say, “Sorry, I got a D+ in my bilocation course in the Seminary.” hehehehe When I say that, I can usually see the look on the angry person’s face change and actually realize the situation. It’s all good. 🙂

– Fr. L.
 
Fr.L.,

I can well imagine the looks you get with that comment, and I’ bet it has even gotten quite a few laughs. There is on thing I do find rather unsettling in my parish, having to leave a message when someone needs last rites after hours, there’s not even a beeper # to call. I know I should ask Fr. about this, but I’m not quite sure how to approach this question, as well as how to contact him for not quite so urgent needs after hours. I know he needs his personal time, I have no doubt he doesn’t get all the prayer time he needs during the day, and I loath to interupt his prayer time but there have been times that I have really needed his guidance and have not been able to contact him. Do you have any further thoughts or suggestions to help guide us in this area?
God bless you and keep you always.
Linda H.
 
the real scandal in the church is the fact that even in areas amply served by priests it is often nearly impossible to find a priest to hear confession outside of a few minutes on Saturday afternoon, and to confer anointing of the sick at any time, outside of some scheduled services a few times a year. Just forget about calling a priest in case of danger of death, you can throw that wallet card away. The hospital chaplain is most likely to be a nun or deacon, if they are even Catholic, very comforting but of limited usefulness in the sacramental way.
 
Yes, finding a priest in case of emergency can be a problem.

With respect to hospitals, the Catholic hospital in our area has on staff “chaplains” who are not Catholic priests; most are laymen. If you want a priest, they have to find one from outside the hospital.

I’m told that because of HIPPA (new privacy law relating to health care), hosptals can no longer notify your parish when you are admitted. You must specifically request it. If you haven’t specifically requested it, they may not be able to tell your parish priest that you are a patient even if he calls about you.
 
Hey, folks!!! :tiphat:

LindaH . . . if it is not the direct need for you to contact the priest for the Anointing/Last Rites, then I’d suggest leaving it alone. However, if this is the symptom of a larger problem of your Pastor not being available in general, then please do address it to him. YOu may find that he is covering other parishes, or you may find that he is simply gone for personal reasons WAY too much, in which case he needs to be called on it. HOWEVER, let me caution you . . . a good and humble priest is not going to talk about his problems. If there seems to be a truly humble but non-committal response from him, then let it be and pray for him. I remember coming home from one of my several surgeries and hospital stays to hear messsages on my voice mail of people screaming at me for not being at the very hospital where I was near death. Ask the question first: Do I want a priest? Do I want superman? Do I want a politician? Do I want a social-services director? While not at all pointing fingers to you, just stating a broader picture, most folks don’t want a priest.

PUZZLEANNIE: Great. So you sin and you think the world needs to stop for you to go to COnfession? Should ahve thought of that before you sinned. Preists are not the salves, animals in cages or bacteria under a microscope that many think we should be. NEITHER is the Church Wal-Mart, with 24-hour drive-through attention on demand. Think of sin and the sacraments in terms of a Catholic . . . not as a spoiled “me me me, instantly satiated” consumer.

– Fr. L.
 
Fr.L.,

I don’t know where you such fault in Puzzlannie’s post, but your comment to her was harsh. No were did I read in her comment was she asking for a 24 hour drive-through confession services, or anything of that sort. Nowhere did she suggest she should be able to sin at will and then go running to the first priest around and demand to have her confession heard. It is a sad fact in many areas of this country today that a critcally ill or even dying person cannot find a priest to absolve them of their sins before they die. Shame on you Fr.L. .
Linda H.
 
Shame on whom? Perhaps we read it differently, but I also put it together with one of her posts on another thread here that says, “with the way things are going a lot more priests are becoming convicts, so I assume they would be able to hear confessions (if they have faculties in prison).”

I also know my weekly experience of Confessions from both sides of the screen and know how people treat it.

– Fr. l.
 
Dear Father JLT,

Thank you for all you do. You must be a blessing to your parishioners. I am pretty lucky to live in a city(s) where Confession is heard pretty much every day, somewhere. People can be very demanding, as you well know. I have a spiritual director who is about 30 miles away. It is hard to get there, but if you manage your time and plan ahead, it works out fine. I do have to admit though, that parishes who only offer Confessions for 20 minutes a week discourage people to partake of the Sacrament. It takes me 20 minutes to get up the courage to go into the Confessional, plus the examination of conscience. Anyway, I will pray for you and don’t let the angry ones get you down. We are all in this together. 👍
 
Dear Fr. JLT,

Like coeyannie said, THANK YOU and God bless you for all you do. But, (you knew there had to be a but coming;) ), like Linda H. said, your reply to PuzzleAnnie soundedharsh. You cited that you answered to what she had said in this thread, but ALSO that of a response she wrote in another thread. Not everyone reads every forum, or every topic within a forum, so your judgement of her did come across as harsh.

I do have a question relating to this thread though…JimG mentioned he lives in an area where there are plenty of ‘seminarians in training’; I recall reading somewhere that seminarians can’t validly hear confession. Could you please tell me if I am remembering this correctly or not.

Again, thank you for answering Gods call. Peace and Godspeed.

PS…Keep up the good work:thumbsup:
 
Patricia! Not the most common name but a very beautiful one. It was my mother’s name. Tomrrow would be her birthday so the first Mass tomorrow is for her. She’d have been – my gosh – 75 already, but the Lord saw fit to call her home when she was in her early 50’s.

Thanks for your good words, both of you. Much appreciated. Speaking of “working up the gumption,” . . .

I made my first Confession at 7 years old. I just turned 37 so that was 30 years ago. I have gone to Confession every week since that first Confession (apart from a span of a few weeks when I prefered to be in a sandy foxhole defending the country when I was in the Army). I must admit, while I dont’ really ahve to work myself up for COnfession, there is still some unidentifiable feeling or notion or SOMETHING that comes over me. When I speak to the parents of the students preparing for First Confession, I share this with them. Then I remidn them that when this happens, it could be for two reasons. The first reason could come from within ourselves. Remember the first time you sat beind the wheel of a car to drive it? What if you had tossed your driver’s license into a drawer and used it only once a year or once every few years. The same feeling from that first time would probably never be overcome. That’s probably a common one for the “semi-churched” crowd.
The second one is very simple: the Devil wants to do anything he can to drive a wedge between you and the sacraments. The devil, of course, can’t MAKE you do anything, but he does know how to push our butons, each of us having different buttons. When things like that happen to you – at the risk of having eaten too much watercress – NAME IT for what it is and tell him to go to hell where he belongs. DOnt’ let him push your buttons. That’s the spritual as well as the emotional side. Now, for the practical side, remind yourself of how many times you’ve seen a penitent emerge from the confession bleeding profusely, bruised, bloodied or missing a limb? 🙂 Hopefully, never. It isn’t a dangerous, unsafe thing to go to Confession. Believe me, OH please believe me. THer is nothing you can come up with to confess that the priest hasn’t heard a gajillion times. The week after my ordination, before I received an assignemnt (refered to as our Honeymoon week), I was invited to hear COnfessions at a local 40-hours. I heard confessions that evening for the first time, for just over an hour. Guess what? I haven’t heard anything new since. 🙂 Oh sure, sometimes the stage is different, but there are only so many scripts. Sin is death. Therefore, by its very nature it cannot be creative. There are no new sins. Yes, new ways of sinning, but they come down to the same old sins. Relax. Kick the devil in the groin and move along. 🙂 Ask St. John Vianney to help you (he was a confessor) and to help all of our priests (he is the patron of Parish priests).

Here’s one for you: A little kid goes into the confessional and says, “Bless me, Father, for I have sinned. I said ‘damned’ once. OOPS! TWICE!” hehehe

As far as the reference to the seminarians, no, only priests and bishops can confess. However, if the area is teaming with seminarians, there may be one or more seminaries local to him. In that case, there are probably a good number of priests in residence and perhaps avail themselves to the faithful outside the seminary.

Many thanks again!

– Fr. l.
 
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SHJ-BVM:
JimG mentioned he lives in an area where there are plenty of ‘seminarians in training’; I recall reading somewhere that seminarians can’t validly hear confession.
Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. What I meant was that our diocese is blessed to have sufficient priests to staff most parishes, more than the average number of new young priests being ordained for the diocese each year, and a good number of seminarians from the diocese who will become priests in the future. The seminary is not located in the diocese nor are the seminarians hearing confessions!

If you want more priests, encourage vocations. Every generation must draw its own priests from among its members. We don’t have a hereditary priesthood.
 
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