Accidental sin vs purposeful sin

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Hi, what if someone put themselves in a situation where they knew they would do something of grave matter but without consenting to it? Would this be a near occasion of sin?

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If they put THEMSELVES in a situation where they KNEW they would do something of grave matter than it would be consenting to it.
 
But what if they did it not wanting to do the thing of grave matter, but often loose focus and accidentally do it?

Ex-someone wanted to pray the Rosary, but sometimes (against their will or when they are not paying attention) they end up doing something similar to worshiping Mary?
 
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I think that is a bad example and don’t really understand it. So here is a better one.

I know when I get drunk around a certain girl I cheat on my wife. But I’m going to submit my will to the alcohol and then I would not have faculties to discern right from wrong. The mortal sin is deliberately giving up my will and leading myself to sin

How could one do something as in your rosary example against their own will?
 
But getting drunk in and of itself is a sin. I’m talking about morally neutral or good acts.

The way the person behaved/thought when praying the Rosary was putting too much importance on Mary and putting Jesus second.
 
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Ok, lets say that is true about the rosary. ( I think there is a temptation in Hispanic culture to do this sometimes but that is for another day…

How in what you described is free will given up? The person CHOOSES to do it!?

I’m really not following your reasoning here. Perhaps you could explain it better?
 
I am saying that you kind of do it sub consciously without thinking it over.
 
What you are implying, that you somehow subconsciously worship Mary instead of Jesus is impossible.

You either do or you don’t. If you are meditating on say… the nativity or the visitation, or the wedding feast at Cana and your mind dwells on Mary well then GOOD! It is supposed to!
 
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Ex-someone wanted to pray the Rosary, but sometimes (against their will or when they are not paying attention) they end up doing something similar to worshiping Mary?
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If you lose your train of thought during a rosary, are you worshipping Mary, or merely mindlessly muttering Hail Marys? There’s no intent to worship, so there’s no sin. As soon as you realize your mind is drifting, steer your thoughts back on track.
 
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Hi, what if someone put themselves in a situation where they knew they would do something of grave matter but without consenting to it? Would this be a near occasion of sin?

Thanks!
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Being voluntary and near is key.

Baltimore Catechism
Q. 771. What do you mean by the near occasions of sin?
A. By the near occasions of sin I mean all the persons, places and things that may easily lead us into sin.
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Q. 772. Why are we bound to avoid occasions of sin?
A. We are bound to avoid occasions of sin because Our Lord has said: “He who loves the danger will perish in it”; and as we are bound to avoid the loss of our souls, so we are bound to avoid the danger of their loss. The occasion is the cause of sin, and you cannot take away the evil without removing its cause.
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Q. 774. How many kinds of occasions of sin are there?
A. There are four kinds of occasions of sin:
1. Near occasions, through which we always fall;
2. Remote occasions, through which we sometimes fall;
3. Voluntary occasions or those we can avoid; and
4. Involuntary occasions or those we cannot avoid.
A person who lives in a near and voluntary occasion of sin need not expect forgiveness while he continues in that state.
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Q. 775. What persons, places and things are usually occasions of sin?
A.
1. The persons who are occasions of sin are all those in whose company we sin, whether they be bad of themselves or bad only while in our company, in which case we also become occasions of sin for them;
2. The places are usually liquor saloons, low theaters, indecent dances, entertainments, amusements, exhibitions, and all immoral resorts of any kind, whether we sin in them or not;
3. The things are all bad books, indecent pictures, songs, jokes and the like, even when they are tolerated by public opinion and found in public places.
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