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deserthermit
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According to Catholic belief is Lord Jesus Christ “God” or the “Son of God”? I’m a bit confused, please help. Thank you.
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Monica4316
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both 
Jesus is the Son of God, but God is the Trinity: the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
So Jesus is the Son of the Father, and both are God.
Jesus is the Son of God, but God is the Trinity: the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
So Jesus is the Son of the Father, and both are God.
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SpiritusSanctus
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Yeah, it’s both.
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Ignatius
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There is one God in three divine persons, God the Father, God the Son and God The Holy Spirit! Jesus is God, He is God the Son!
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xebec775
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“We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.”
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.”
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Ockham
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Think of the shamrock. One God in three persons. Blessed Trinity.
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deserthermit
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I don’t understand. I don’t want to start an argument, I’m just trying to process this information. So please be patient…
In the scriptures, when Lord Jesus is praying to God is he actually praying to Himself? On the cross He asks forgiveness for sins of humans and cries out why has God forsaken Him. Is He at two places at once? I mean why did God come to Earth in a human form to be tortured and murdered for our sins?
In the scriptures, when Lord Jesus is praying to God is he actually praying to Himself? On the cross He asks forgiveness for sins of humans and cries out why has God forsaken Him. Is He at two places at once? I mean why did God come to Earth in a human form to be tortured and murdered for our sins?
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LilyM
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No. Jesus is praying to God the Father. Both Father and Son are God, but the Father is not the Son and God the Son is not the Father.
It may help to think of water. Water comes in three forms - ice (when it’s frozen), liquid (when it’s room temperature) and steam (when it’s boiling hot). Ice isn’t liquid water, and liquid water isn’t ice, but both ice and liquid ARE equally water - they both have the chemical structure of H20.
Not in a human form - He became truly Man. Thus becoming the only being in existence capable of bridging the vast gulf that man’s sin has placed between him and God, and briding it to such an extent that ALL humankind can be reconciled and cross into God’s presence, if they but choose to.
A God who isn’t human can’t offer atonement on behalf of humans - he is too unlike them. A human who isn’t God can’t atone for OTHER humans - he lacks the power to atone for anyone but himself. Only the God Man could do both.
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deserthermit
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it does help a little bit … I’ll need to think on what you said, thank you:thumbsup:
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manualman
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What an awesome question!
Humans seems to swing between two extremes when it comes to Morality and Natural Law: Apathy and Despair.
We see LOTS of apathy in our culture today. Many suggest that there IS no objective right and wrong, just human ethical constructs based on convenience and function.
But after a while of that, reality bites hard. Which is why we also have so much despair, manifested in drug use, sexual degeneracy, depression, divorce…
The fact is that we’ve ALL abused the gifts we’ve been given. We’ve caused hurt, been selfish, been arrogant, selfish, lustful, slothful (well, those are MY biggies anyways)… God the Son became incarnate as a human being out of love for us. He came into this world as a human knowing and accepting that we, as a result of all our sinfulness, would kill him. He did it anyways because it opened the way for Him to show us that He STILL loves us and STILL can rescue us from the depths we’ve sunken to. Now we know just how great His love really is. He can restore us to the complete goodness we were created to be. This is the great alternative to despair, the GOOD NEWS. His Grace will restore us and renew us. We have to allow it and have to choose it for a lifetime, but it is still a gift. After his resurrection and ascension, He left us togther as a community and with the Grace of the Sacraments to sustain us until the end (both our personal and communal end).
Humans seems to swing between two extremes when it comes to Morality and Natural Law: Apathy and Despair.
We see LOTS of apathy in our culture today. Many suggest that there IS no objective right and wrong, just human ethical constructs based on convenience and function.
But after a while of that, reality bites hard. Which is why we also have so much despair, manifested in drug use, sexual degeneracy, depression, divorce…
The fact is that we’ve ALL abused the gifts we’ve been given. We’ve caused hurt, been selfish, been arrogant, selfish, lustful, slothful (well, those are MY biggies anyways)… God the Son became incarnate as a human being out of love for us. He came into this world as a human knowing and accepting that we, as a result of all our sinfulness, would kill him. He did it anyways because it opened the way for Him to show us that He STILL loves us and STILL can rescue us from the depths we’ve sunken to. Now we know just how great His love really is. He can restore us to the complete goodness we were created to be. This is the great alternative to despair, the GOOD NEWS. His Grace will restore us and renew us. We have to allow it and have to choose it for a lifetime, but it is still a gift. After his resurrection and ascension, He left us togther as a community and with the Grace of the Sacraments to sustain us until the end (both our personal and communal end).
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Ignatius
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No, He’s not praying to Himself. There is one God, but three divine persons. God the Father, God the Son and God The Holy Spirit! God the Son is not God the Father. God is infinite and is indeed everywhere at once. God is not a creature and is not bound by Earthly constraints.
It is admitedly a very difficult concept. As Holy Scripture tells us, God’s ways are as far above our ways as the Heavens are above the Earth.
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